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    • Arch Duke Maxyenko
      Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

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      https://www.thedrive.com/news/37656/2022-subaru-brz-finally-more-power-and-a-slick-new-design-but-still-no-turbo

      Same as the old BRZ. New engine, same basic platform, should be fun.

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      • futureNDowner
        futureNDowner last edited by

        Ha, I was just about to post the same thing!

        I think it looks great, and on paper it seems to have improved a lot. Still unsure if I would chose this over an MX-5 as a second car though.

        2014 Ford Focus ST, 1973 MG MGB

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        • Jarrett
          Jarrett last edited by

          Oh thank god I don't have buyers remorse right now.

          I'm not digging the styling. Did they steal the tail lights off a civic? And the front end off a Ferrari?
          The new engine seems like the old AP1 vs AP2 argument. Since it's a 2.4 though, it will have more overhead when you throw parts at it. I bet headers+exhaust+tune on the 2.0 will be better than the 2.4.

          2018 BRZ, 2011 Mazda3, 2015 Rogue, [Former - 2002 Miata], 4090 Enthusiast.

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          • Arch Duke Maxyenko
            Arch Duke Maxyenko @Jarrett last edited by

            @jarrett IDK having no torque dip would be lovely. That was truly frustrating when I've driven them.

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            • flatisflat
              flatisflat @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

              @arch-duke-maxyenko
              Awww, Toyota got to make a baby RC F.
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              2012 R55 LCI N18B16A 6MT

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              • LimitedTimeOnly
                LimitedTimeOnly last edited by

                "Peak torque now comes on at just 3,700 rpm—right around where its predecessor would fall into that famously awful torque dip."

                OK, so I might be able to get the feel that I want without modding it? I'll wait and see, but this could replace my GTI in 2022-2023 timeframe.

                2016 VW GTI and 2020 Subaru Outback XT

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                • Smallbear
                  Smallbear @Jarrett last edited by

                  @jarrett I was thinking along similar lines... it's not bad looking, but it does look like they blended a bunch of other cars together.
                  Front quarter view, depending on the exact angle, I'm seeing 911/Panamera/Beetle.
                  Rear, I'm seeing NZX.
                  Rear quarter, I'm seeing WRX/something Lexus. And Aston on the trunk lid.

                  And then there's these two, for some stark contrast.

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                  At the front on this one, I see the melted face of the current Escape.

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                  And this one has a bit of TVR flavour going on, minus the hood slashes obviously. Though it could just be the tail out tire smoke talking there...

                  Four out of five dentists surveyed recommended playing hockey.

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                  • LimitedTimeOnly
                    LimitedTimeOnly @futureNDowner last edited by

                    @futurendowner For me, having a nominal back seat makes it more appealing than the MX-5 so that I can have my wife AND my dog in the car. Plus, I don't really want a convertible.

                    2016 VW GTI and 2020 Subaru Outback XT

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                    • Qaaaaa
                      Qaaaaa last edited by

                      They pulled a 350z/370z

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                      • Tekamul
                        Tekamul @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                        @arch-duke-maxyenko Ok serious question because it's the most popular topic when it comes to these. If you're trying to drive fast, why are the revs that low? When driven aggressively, the engine lives between 4800 and 7400 rpms. You've only got to pass the dip once from a stop.
                        It's the old 90's JDM approach. If you want the water to boil, you need to keep the burner on.

                        2016 FXS | 2013 FRS | 2015 428ix conv | 2018 Outlander PHEV

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                        • LimitedTimeOnly
                          LimitedTimeOnly last edited by LimitedTimeOnly

                          I will say that, having the Eyesight getup in my Outback, seeing that it will be on the auto version means that I would definitely want the manual. My wife is just going to have to re-learn manual driving when I replace the GTI, most likely. (EyeSight is fine and sometimes helpful for a commuter/road trip/family car, but I would not want it on my sporty car as it gets in the way.)

                          I could do without the doorsill flare things. Overall, the looks didn't really improve.

                          @Tekamul I found that the BRZ that I've tested felt like a complete dog around town due to the torque dip. Yes, when having fun you keep it high, but that got tiresome even in the course of the test drive. I guess I wanted the sound to be like my old Integra, but it wasn't.

                          2016 VW GTI and 2020 Subaru Outback XT

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                          • ?
                            A Former User last edited by A Former User

                            Hang on, so the new BRZ might actually be faster than my 12 year old camry? Nice! TBH Im glad, it looks nice, still light so thats great. Looks like cars might be getting nice again, ie the new 400z

                            Edit: My GF's 2004 Solara is actually the one that could prob hang with the older BRZ, mine is the newer 2008 model and is down on power.

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                            • Jarrett
                              Jarrett @Tekamul last edited by

                              @tekamul @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko Time to break out the memes!!Torque Dip Doesn't Matter.png

                              2018 BRZ, 2011 Mazda3, 2015 Rogue, [Former - 2002 Miata], 4090 Enthusiast.

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                              • frinesi2
                                frinesi2 last edited by

                                Somebody change that car's diaper - it's full.

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                                • nth256
                                  nth256 last edited by

                                  Honestly, I think it looks good, but it really strikes me as a modern take on a 240Z, if Nissan had downsized the 350/370 instead of making the 400Z.

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                                  • Arch Duke Maxyenko
                                    Arch Duke Maxyenko @Tekamul last edited by

                                    @tekamul it’s because when you hit a slow turn that should be a second gear turn and you go to accelerate and NOTHING happens. It is incredibly frustrating

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                                    • Jarrett
                                      Jarrett last edited by

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                                      Look at dem tail lights.

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                                      2018 BRZ, 2011 Mazda3, 2015 Rogue, [Former - 2002 Miata], 4090 Enthusiast.

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                                      • RallyDarkstrike
                                        RallyDarkstrike @LimitedTimeOnly last edited by RallyDarkstrike

                                        @limitedtimeonly Can you permanently turn Eyesight off? I hate all this 'emergency braking' crap in cars these days....I've driven some with it a few times and twice now (different models, different manufacturers - a friend of the family's newer Subaru Forester, and a newer CR-V with 'Honda Sensing'), both slammed on my brakes for no reason when there was no issue and scared the shit out of me...(luckily going slowly both times, but still)

                                        If I am the driver I want to drive my own damn car, call me old fashioned!

                                        '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                        • LimitedTimeOnly
                                          LimitedTimeOnly @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                                          @rallydarkstrike To my knowledge EyeSight cannot be turned off, but I also haven't tried. For the most part it does it's job well, but there are times in stop-and-go traffic where it'll intervene when I was still going to stop at least an inch from the bumper of the car in front of me. Actually, it's kind of helpful. But I wouldn't want it in a BRZ, it just doesn't belong.

                                          I have turned off the poor-performing lane-keep feature in my Outback.

                                          2016 VW GTI and 2020 Subaru Outback XT

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                                          • HammerheadFistpunch
                                            HammerheadFistpunch @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                                            @arch-duke-maxyenko I'd rather it be NA honestly. But if rather it not look like a slightly melted version of it's former self

                                            Some kind of sentient rodent - Overland Curator.

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                                            • 2Poor_sh2Furious
                                              2Poor_sh2Furious last edited by

                                              I'm a fan. I don't want turbo, they fixed the torque dip, and actually worked on some handling which it didn't really even need. I will say though that I think the current design is sleeker and more classy like a Porsche. Now the looks are more downmarket like 370z/Supra as others have mentioned. Still a good look overall though.

                                              I definitely will test drive but I'll be interested to see this vs the next gen Miata for a future DD.

                                              14' Cayman S | 99' Miata | 20' Macan GTS

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                                              • Hike
                                                Hike @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                                                @rallydarkstrike you can turn it all off, but it comes back on with every key cycle. So yes, but also no. It's like auto start stop.

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                                                • Hike
                                                  Hike last edited by

                                                  I quite like the way it looks. It definitely makes sense for someone who wants a fun daily driver. It's more useful than a Miata or 370z because it has a backseat that can be used in a pinch it act as more cargo room. I certainly want one just because it offers eyesight now, which I won't go without due to the amount of driving I do.

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                                                  • RallyDarkstrike
                                                    RallyDarkstrike @Hike last edited by

                                                    @hike That would get annoying really quickly....I'd just be turning it off every time I start the car...

                                                    '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                                    • Tekamul
                                                      Tekamul @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                                                      @arch-duke-maxyenko Sounds like a 1st gear turn, but I can imagine not all situations are covered.

                                                      2016 FXS | 2013 FRS | 2015 428ix conv | 2018 Outlander PHEV

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