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    Remember when jeep sold a "comanche eliminator"

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    • ClassicDatsunDebate
      ClassicDatsunDebate @onlytwowheels last edited by

      @onlytwowheels so...Waggoner is out then too?

      We’re running out of names.

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      • onlytwowheels
        onlytwowheels @ClassicDatsunDebate last edited by

        @classicdatsundebate

        Not yet, because the Donner party do not represent or own the title of wagoneer.

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        • HammerheadFistpunch
          HammerheadFistpunch @Pixel last edited by

          @pixel oh man. That guy. He is hilarious. "I'm not racist, I have a black friend"

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          • Italia
            Italia @ranwhenparked last edited by

            @ranwhenparked yeah more of a grey area on Pontiac but the name is dead for now. A local chrome shop posted a picture of a pontiac hood ornament that was absolutely beautiful as a piece of art the other day.

            https://www.instagram.com/p/CLCkIJXj_Db/?igshid=t02cwzxlqdu7

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            • Italia
              Italia @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

              @whoistheleader yeah they aren't saying it's offensive as much as they are just saying they don't like it, also I had no clue that Mojave was a tribe.

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              • Roadkilled
                Roadkilled @onlytwowheels last edited by

                @onlytwowheels Donner is not a good name. I adopted a dog in February 1994. A litter of dogs had been abandoned by the side of the road just before Christmas, and the shelter named them after Santa's reindeer. By the time my wife and I got to the shelter, only Donner and Prancer were left. We adopted Donner, but shortened her name to Donna because "Donner" made me think of cannibalism and not reindeer.

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                • WhoIsTheLeader
                  WhoIsTheLeader @Roadkilled last edited by

                  @roadkilled said in Remember when jeep sold a "comanche eliminator":

                  "Donner" made me think of cannibalism and not reindeer.

                  Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?

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                  • Pixel
                    Pixel @ranwhenparked last edited by

                    @ranwhenparked I just found out that "Pontiac" was never the name of a tribe, it was the name of a famous Ottawa tribe leader. Never knew that. But it makes it even more hilarious that he was talking about how he has a "Pontiac" girlfriend. It would be like me saying I have a "George Washington" girlfriend.

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                    • R
                      ranwhenparked @Pixel last edited by

                      @pixel I probably knew that at one time, but in one ear, out the other

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                      • Rusty Vandura
                        Rusty Vandura @Italia last edited by Rusty Vandura

                        @italia I saw a Wagoneer on the road this weekend and I think it's just one of the handsomest cars that ever was made. This particular one is perfect, with the grocery-getting wheels and tyres.

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                        [ E D I T ] Not perfect because raised-white-letter tires. But very close.

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                        • awesomeaustinv
                          awesomeaustinv @ranwhenparked last edited by

                          @ranwhenparked That could be good for sales as well. I imagine it would be good publicity to say that every Jeep (insert tribe name here) sold contributes to someone from that tribe's college education.

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                          • Italia
                            Italia @DipodomysDeserti last edited by

                            @dipodomysdeserti at least they get majority approval from tribal leaders. I do love the irony here though.

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                            • fintail
                              fintail @Rusty Vandura last edited by

                              @rusty-vandura A little more yellow, and it could be Dr. Leo Marvin's ride:

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                              • Italia
                                Italia @ranwhenparked last edited by

                                @ranwhenparked https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maruti_Gypsy does this example work?

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                                • Rusty Vandura
                                  Rusty Vandura @fintail last edited by

                                  @fintail I actually like that specimen better, but that image is probably 20 years old and that car looks like it's already been rode hard and put up wet.

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                                  • Italia
                                    Italia @HammerheadFistpunch last edited by

                                    @hammerheadfistpunch the "my wife's grandpa defense"

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                                    • Pixel
                                      Pixel @ranwhenparked last edited by

                                      @ranwhenparked Me too. When someone mentioned it in the thread on Jalopnik I had to go google it, and once I did I felt kinda silly for having forgotten.

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                                        ForSweden last edited by

                                        If I remember history, a Comanche Eliminator is an Apache.

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                                        • MisterButtercup
                                          MisterButtercup @Rusty Vandura last edited by

                                          @rusty-vandura the way he drove, it sure was!

                                          From the movie What About Bob, which is hilarious. Richard Dreyfuss and Bill Murray.

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                                          • Roadkilled
                                            Roadkilled @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                            @whoistheleader said in Remember when jeep sold a "comanche eliminator":

                                            @roadkilled said in Remember when jeep sold a "comanche eliminator":

                                            "Donner" made me think of cannibalism and not reindeer.

                                            Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?

                                            The Rankin and Bass version had some very dark themes. I'll have to go back to look for the cannibalism.

                                            https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/rankin-bass-rudolph-the-red-nosed-reindeer/616932/

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                                            • Lanciere
                                              Lanciere @DipodomysDeserti last edited by Lanciere

                                              @dipodomysdeserti I was going to mention that. I'm hoping they drop that with but probably not. Cavalry troops are still regularly nicknamed Apache, Blackfoot, and Comanche.

                                              Somewhat related and no less disturbing, Coloradoans decided to name a railroad town just a few miles from the site of the Sand Creek Massacre, Chivington.

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                                              • Rusty Vandura
                                                Rusty Vandura @MisterButtercup last edited by

                                                @misterbuttercup said in Remember when jeep sold a "comanche eliminator":

                                                Richard Dreyfuss and Bill Murray.

                                                An interesting pairing...

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                                                • rctothefuture
                                                  rctothefuture last edited by

                                                  Why can't Jeep save face with it's naming? What if they promised to donate 2% of every Cherokee and Grand Cherokee sale to helping Native Tribes across the land? Jeep could start sponsoring Native Culture days and parades across the country.

                                                  If Jeep wants to be the "American" brand it's best to honor all folks of America.

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                                                  • MybirdIStheword
                                                    MybirdIStheword @Italia last edited by

                                                    @italia is it offensive? Or is it the last gasp of representation in our culture? Both?
                                                    I could go on, but this thread would get banished to oppopolitics.

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                                                    • MisterButtercup
                                                      MisterButtercup @Rusty Vandura last edited by

                                                      @rusty-vandura it is, but it's hilarious. My family has been quoting that movie for years

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