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    Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers

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    • S
      Svend @nth256 last edited by

      @nth256
      I believe Mini call them Clubvan. 🙂

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      • nth256
        nth256 @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

        @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko said in Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers:

        @HammerheadFistpunch b0ccef9a-b3af-43c4-911d-c0142135e3a7-image.png

        MINI by Tata

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        • flatisflat
          flatisflat @nth256 last edited by

          @nth256 said in Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers:

          This looks like the Chery/Geely/Ssangyong/BYD version of a MINI.

          The new e-MINI I think is being built in China, so, it tracks.

          2012 R55 LCI N18B16A 6MT

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          • nth256
            nth256 @flatisflat last edited by

            @flatisflat I wonder if they just handed off the whole project to a Chinese firm then. This might be a China-only model, that being the case.

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            • drVanTraveler
              drVanTraveler @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

              @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko I can't say anything nice about that newest Countryman either.
              Here was our 16,
              mini.jpg
              Our 23, 23mini.jpg
              Mini is quitting the PHEV after this too.

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              • ranwhenparked
                ranwhenparked @NKato last edited by ranwhenparked

                @NKato *1994 - BMW bought Mini's then-parent Rover Group from BAE & Honda, then broke it up in 2000, keeping Mini for themselves and selling off the rest (Rover, MG, and Land Rover)

                Edit - there was also the Maestro and Montego earlier on, which were never officially given a new brand after the Austin nameplate was discontinued in the late '80s. They were usually referred to as Rovers, but technically weren't, basically stand-alone single model brands in kind of a limbo until being discontinued early in BMW ownership. Apparently BMW didn't even realize they were still in production at the time of the acquisition and were surprised to find that out

                2022 Ioniq SE
                2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
                1964 Corvair Monza

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                • bison78
                  bison78 @nth256 last edited by

                  @nth256

                  Would that make it a... MINI-van?

                  Not unless it looks like this:
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                  • flatisflat
                    flatisflat @nth256 last edited by

                    @nth256 said in Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers:

                    This might be a China-only model, that being the case.

                    I dunno, pretty sure that ugly is going global.

                    2012 R55 LCI N18B16A 6MT

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                    • Nauraushaun
                      Nauraushaun @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                      @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko i feel like this is a statement that their designers have been getting worse since the early 2000s. which is accurate

                      '90 Toyota MR2 (NA, t-top)
                      Targa top enthusiast
                      Tag me in your 300ZX posts

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                      • Nauraushaun
                        Nauraushaun last edited by

                        i saw an i7 on the road the other day. it's not a bad looking car....in some ways...but it was night time so it looked like this:
                        1d3b467b-eb89-40ed-bacd-a37bddc65e98-image.png
                        yes it literally has lighting all the way around the grille. it might be the most garish thing on our roads today. looked horrible.

                        '90 Toyota MR2 (NA, t-top)
                        Targa top enthusiast
                        Tag me in your 300ZX posts

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                        • Throwaway
                          Throwaway @Nauraushaun last edited by

                          @Nauraushaun rg-2022-bmw-ix-2.jpg

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                          • Nauraushaun
                            Nauraushaun @Throwaway last edited by

                            @Throwaway Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 8.22.22 am.png
                            must be hard to add styling to a pointless slab-sided behemoth. this is one such attempt

                            '90 Toyota MR2 (NA, t-top)
                            Targa top enthusiast
                            Tag me in your 300ZX posts

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                            • Throwaway
                              Throwaway @Nauraushaun last edited by

                              @Nauraushaun it's so bad. From every angle. Apparently it drives well though.

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                              • WBizarre
                                WBizarre @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                                @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko Oof yea, that's rough. Somehow the press photos with the wide angle lens and the gold accents made it look better on initial release.

                                And yet...
                                01f2aed8-b433-43a8-912e-4c2e42dc58c4-image.png absolutely killing it in the interior department. It's kind of like the iX in that respect.

                                @NKato I'm pretty sure it's related to the X1. 8512341c-941c-40f5-a341-a35d4de7766b-image.png Which works a lot better than the Countryman.

                                https://www.instagram.com/carmorphs/ e36 estoril / e30 schwarz

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                                • Shop-Teacher
                                  Shop-Teacher @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                                  @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko Woof!

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                                  • MidEngine
                                    MidEngine @WBizarre last edited by MidEngine

                                    @WBizarre you find THAT interior is killing it? An illuminated frisbee? Bizarre

                                    2006 XC70, 2007 Cayman, 2018 Tacoma SR5, 2019 MX-5 RF

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                                    • MidEngine
                                      MidEngine @NKato last edited by

                                      @NKato to be fair, it would fit tho

                                      2006 XC70, 2007 Cayman, 2018 Tacoma SR5, 2019 MX-5 RF

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                                      • Engineer In Motion
                                        Engineer In Motion @Arch Duke Maxyenko last edited by

                                        @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko

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                                        And to top it off there is nothing mini about mini anymore. I don't know who they are designing for but its clearly not me. With how they are going I'll never own another BMW again.

                                        Wanted by Federal authorities for dancing with a mailman.

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                                        • drVanTraveler
                                          drVanTraveler @MidEngine last edited by

                                          @MidEngine said in Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers:

                                          @WBizarre you find THAT interior is killing it? An illuminated frisbee? Bizarre

                                          I agree. The center "lit frisbee" is horrible!
                                          The idea of no dash in front of the driver is a bad trend IMHO. At least our 23 still has a dash along with a center screen for nav, radio, etc.

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                                          • GrindIntoSecond
                                            GrindIntoSecond last edited by

                                            Bullshit Motoren Werke. I hear they have a performance division called T-sport, or Total Bullshit.

                                            ‘22 Ridgeline
                                            ‘78 mini
                                            Automation: 1.5 wins, 12 podium, 6 middle, 5 bottoms

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                                            • WBizarre
                                              WBizarre @MidEngine last edited by WBizarre

                                              @MidEngine @drVanTraveler Yes, I find that to be killing it. First off, it does take more effort to make a round screen rather than pulling a rectangle off the parts shelf like everyone else. It's immediately recognizable, looks new and endearing, as screens go, and doesn't dominate the view the way a rectangle of the same size would. Secondly it has a real historical reason to be this way, dating back to the big center speedo on the original Mini. Previous Mini interiors have tried to integrate the round element with a rectangular screen, and it always looked awkward/shoehorned. Not any more - this is what a retro callback looks like, done properly. As for information in front of the driver, it looks like they'll all have the heads-up display... which I guess some people don't like? The rest of the interior is clean and simple with satisfying symmetry. It looks downright minimalist compared to the ridiculous hodge-podge interiors of recent Minis. The use of textiles on the dashboard is refreshing, and brings a splash of color to the cabin - and I'm sure the fabric is recycled or something. Do I wish for physical HVAC controls? Yes, but unfortunately that's par for the course these days.

                                              https://www.instagram.com/carmorphs/ e36 estoril / e30 schwarz

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                                              • MidEngine
                                                MidEngine @WBizarre last edited by MidEngine

                                                @WBizarre five different colors (and probably more that aren’t captured) it looks like a carnival tent. The door cards fade away to some sort dotted effect like the surround on a windshield periphery. Nursery school. That’s just me I guess 🤷🏻

                                                2006 XC70, 2007 Cayman, 2018 Tacoma SR5, 2019 MX-5 RF

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                                                • drVanTraveler
                                                  drVanTraveler @WBizarre last edited by

                                                  @WBizarre That's just a bridge too far for us. We much prefer the current look and function,
                                                  IMG_20230918_222757.jpg

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                                                  • RiceRocketeer
                                                    RiceRocketeer last edited by

                                                    It makes my life much easier when a company puts up an obvious sign saying, "don't bother with our products."

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                                                    • Taylor Martin
                                                      Taylor Martin @Qaaaaa last edited by

                                                      @Qaaaaa said in Dear BMW: Please Fire Your Designers:

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                                                      Some journalist told me about this site. Now I own three cars.

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