New MR2 *and* Miata coming?

[Turbineguy-Nom de Zoom]

I guess the segment isn't dead yet? The articles mention a 150hp 1-liter Suzuki mill powering MR2 and a mild hybrid possibly for Miata. Imho 200hp/200lb-ft would be perfect for either.

[Taylor Martin]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom

150hp 1-liter Suzuki mill

That's a lot of horsepower for a soda bottle... How big is it, I could think of many small cars that need 150 horsepower.

[AkioOhtori]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom I came here to say "CUV?" but with a 150hp engine, even if it ends up being a "CUV" it'll actually have to be a smol boi and I think that is OK.

[davesaddiction]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom

150hp 1-liter Suzuki mill powering MR2

Paging @Snakesm13

Wonder what the redline with be...

[davesaddiction]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

200hp/200lb-ft

A Miata with only a slight weight gain with that power would be amazing.

But batteries are hella heavy.

[Turbineguy-Nom de Zoom]

@davesaddiction Yeah. I can't imagine Mazda would put anything but a small battery in a Miata because of its weight. I've read it referred to as a mild-hybrid so that may be a clue. The starter will pull double duty as a generator.

[davesaddiction]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom

Apparently a 48V lithium battery doesn't weigh that much at all.

Adding lots of complexity, though.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44267/mazda-patents-lightweight-hybrid-drivetrain-that-could-be-for-the-ne-miata

[theturbomrt]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

Imho 200hp/200lb-ft would be perfect for either.

Truly groundbreaking

THIS JUST IN FROM 1991
MR2 Turbo with a turbocharged 2.0L 3S-GTE engine producing 200 bhp (203 PS; 149 kW) at 6,000 rpm and 200 lb⋅ft (271 N⋅m) at 3,200 rpm of torque, offered only with a 5-speed M/T

[EssExTee]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom it'd be just big enough to start the car from a stop before the ICE kicks in. Doesn't sound like much, but that's most fuel-consuming moment for a gasoline engine so the savings will add up over time.

[ForSweden]

Put a Rotax in an MR2 you cowards!

[theturbomrt]

@ForSweden said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

Put a Rotax in an MR2 you cowards!

Wanna see some blasphemy?
I know about K swap the world but this guy rescued a MR2 and then.... did this

[Qaaaaa]

@EssExTee said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom it'd be just big enough to start the car from a stop before the ICE kicks in. Doesn't sound like much, but that's most fuel-consuming moment for a gasoline engine so the savings will add up over time.

Oh, so it'll have a special starter belt on the accessory drive side, you know, like a Saturn Vue

[Turbineguy-Nom de Zoom]

@theturbomrt said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

Imho 200hp/200lb-ft would be perfect for either.

Truly groundbreaking

THIS JUST IN FROM 1991
MR2 Turbo with a turbocharged 2.0L 3S-GTE engine producing 200 bhp (203 PS; 149 kW) at 6,000 rpm and 200 lb⋅ft (271 N⋅m) at 3,200 rpm of torque, offered only with a 5-speed M/T

It's a shame Toyota doesn't build that motor anymore.

[theturbomrt]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

@theturbomrt said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

Imho 200hp/200lb-ft would be perfect for either.

Truly groundbreaking

THIS JUST IN FROM 1991
MR2 Turbo with a turbocharged 2.0L 3S-GTE engine producing 200 bhp (203 PS; 149 kW) at 6,000 rpm and 200 lb⋅ft (271 N⋅m) at 3,200 rpm of torque, offered only with a 5-speed M/T

It's a shame Toyota doesn't build that motor anymore.

I actually have its' final generation in my MR2

It lasted a hot minute, 21 years. The USDM MR2 Turbo only came with the second option there

[DSM_OR_DIE]

@theturbomrt 86mm x 86mm

The AZ-1's new engine is 68x60 which is.....very different from that.

[Peter_Black]

@Taylor-Martin I mean...liter sport bikes have been making 150 HP for like 20 years now

[Taylor Martin]

@Peter_Black I won't lie, I forget motorbikes even exist. My brain thinks in relation to four-wheeled things only. Three-wheeled things sometimes as well.

^ Pictured above: my brain

[Jarrett]

@DSM_OR_DIE said in New MR2 *and* Miata coming?:

86mm x 86mm

Dig out the FA20! (Don't actually do this)

[Turbineguy-Nom de Zoom]

@Peter_Black Yeah but not much torque which doesn't work in a 2000lb+ car.

[Peter_Black]

@Turbineguy-Nom-de-Zoom ah yes, because the 1L, 150 HP mill they will be putting in it NOW will have OODLES of torque!

[Turbineguy-Nom de Zoom]

@Peter_Black If it's anything like the Toyobaru twins engine then yeah, kinda lame.