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    • Milky
      Milky last edited by

      Took 7 years and 141,000 miles but the first mechanical problem has happened. The diff is making a terrible noise. Presumably that is, still working out getting is diagnosed since my normal oil change spot doesn't do that and the local driveline place doesn't work on foreign cars (what year is this?). Any who have a couple of other leads to call on, but since I meant to take this car off daily driver duty a while ago, started test driving again.

      Drove a V6 IS not that long ago and its still a front runner for a comfy dependable car to along side the Miata. But also wanted to try out some bigger bois. Sooo
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      Ohh man was the steering bad. Its a Wrangler with knobbly tires, no shock, but notably higher effort then the highway tire-d 4 door I drove for a week and liked. Also worth noting that barely any seem to actually have the advanced cruise control optioned, even the $52k(!) example I test drove. Seems to be standard on '24 cars, but oofta at ordering one right now.
      Something I do like though is that a CPO example would come with a 100k mile powertrain warranty, which would give me some piece of mind going to mopar.

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      Took this around the block too and it steered great? Handle better then it had any reason too, but in the end that means it drove like a good car and didn't leave me with any emotion. Plus the interior wasn't that nice, good but not great. In the end its a mid size crossover so I shouldn't be surprised.

      I gotta get my car fixed still and definitely going to have all of this rummaging around the back of my head for a while.

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      • davesaddiction
        davesaddiction @Milky last edited by

        @Milky said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

        it steered great? Handle better then it had any reason too

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        TR-6060 . RWD . LS3 . MagneRide . Brembos ... 4 doors + 5 seatbelts

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        • Milky
          Milky @davesaddiction last edited by

          @davesaddiction For real though. Besides being a bit "heavy" I dont know why all cars cant have steering like that.
          $42k fully loaded isnt half bad either.

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          • Finnish Insider
            Finnish Insider @davesaddiction last edited by

            @davesaddiction Ditto on the Cammisa verdict. Even the older CX5 had handles that would make other crossovers blush.

            @Milky the newer Tiguan's are truly alot of car for the money and on a short list for potential daily replacement for me in the future.

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            • Zaphod's Heart of Gold
              Zaphod's Heart of Gold @Milky last edited by

              @Milky I don't understand the love of advanced cruise control. Inevitably I'll end up following someone who can't keep a consistent speed which is far more annoying than having to control my own speed.

              I optioned my gladiator without it. Or, more to the point, I bought one that did not have all the sensors. For many replacing bumpers is an early modification and getting one with all the sensors in the right places is not as easy.

              52k for a 2 door...jesus

              2020 Gladiator, 1956 F100 project, 1993 Eagle Summit race van, Mystery car?

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              • AestheticsInMotion
                AestheticsInMotion last edited by

                Engine swap time

                2006 R55 AMG
                1999 Hayabusa

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                • drVanTraveler
                  drVanTraveler @Zaphod's Heart of Gold last edited by drVanTraveler

                  @Zaphod-s-Heart-of-Gold said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                  I don't understand the love of advanced cruise control.

                  I really don't either. I've driven with it on the highway, and found that it loses speed right before I want to change lanes to pass someone. I did adjust the follow distance thing..
                  My GR Corolla advanced cruise slows down for sweeping curves, and that's just silly. Might be ok for panicky crossover drivers, but not on the GRC.

                  Update: There is a setting in the Toyota dash stuff that allows me to eliminate curve speed reduction, thanks to @atfsgeoff for pointing this out. I am still not up to speed on all this over-complicated dash stuff.

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                  • davesaddiction
                    davesaddiction @Finnish Insider last edited by davesaddiction

                    @Finnish-Insider

                    the older CX5

                    The aforementioned Mrs. addiction's CX-9 drives quite nicely as well.

                    I sure hope Mazda engineers get the chance to build another sports car or sporty sedan again, besides the next Miata, and not just more and more crossover SUVs.

                    TR-6060 . RWD . LS3 . MagneRide . Brembos ... 4 doors + 5 seatbelts

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                    • Milky
                      Milky @Finnish Insider last edited by

                      @Finnish-Insider Dont want to hate on VW, but the idea of putting a 100k on one scares me.

                      @Zaphod-s-Heart-of-Gold @drVanTraveler Obviously dont need it but I road tripped a GC and a Wrangler with it and found it useful. Turning the cruise on and off for hours is kind of annoying and it smoothed that out imo. Plus it seems rude to spend all that money and not get it thrown in when its standard on cheaper cars.

                      @AestheticsInMotion Because of a diff?! The rest of the car is still going strong enough (knocks on wood).

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                      • davesaddiction
                        davesaddiction @drVanTraveler last edited by davesaddiction

                        @drVanTraveler said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                        loses speed right before I want to change lanes to pass someone. I did adjust the follow distance thing..

                        Yeah, you definitely have to adjust your lane change behavior to well before you would in an older car, even with the shortest follow distance set.

                        I worry about young drivers who learn on cars with these systems who then find themselves in a older car without it. My little brother actually had a minor "oh shit" moment on the highway in a newly purchased car of theirs because of this.

                        Our brain quickly learns the "new normal" and forgets the old ways, if we allow it.

                        TR-6060 . RWD . LS3 . MagneRide . Brembos ... 4 doors + 5 seatbelts

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                        • HFV_Junkyardin
                          HFV_Junkyardin @Milky last edited by HFV_Junkyardin

                          @Milky Now that I've driven a handfull I cant understand how or why any one is paying 50k for a Wrangler.
                          They are at best a silly noisy toy car, and at worst an annoying rattle trap. Which would be find if they were cheap. but they are FAR from it.

                          (Speedy Speed Boy woa oh woa oh)
                          (Speed Boy Speed Boy woa oh woa oh)

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                          • Mazda616
                            Mazda616 @davesaddiction last edited by Mazda616

                            @davesaddiction said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                            @Finnish-Insider

                            the older CX5

                            The aforementioned Mrs. addiction's CX-9 drives quite nicely as well.

                            I sure hope Mazda engineers get the chance to build another sports car or sporty sedan again, besides the next Miata, and not just more and more crossover SUVs.

                            This. Our CX-5 is a 2016 with close to 97,000 miles and it’s still a hoot to drive. Feels as solid as ever, too.

                            β€˜90 Pontiac Sunbird LE
                            β€˜16 Mazda6 Touring
                            β€˜16 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

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                            • ash78
                              ash78 @HFV_Junkyardin last edited by ash78

                              @HFV_Junkyardin said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                              @Milky Now that I've driven a handfull I cant understand how or why any one is paying 50k for a Wrangler.
                              They are at best a silly noisy toy car, and at worst an annoying rattle trap. Which would be find if they were cheap. but they are FAR from it.

                              If I lived somewhere with lots of dirt/gravel roads and trails AND really nice, dry weather, I could make a case for Wrangler as a DD. But the fact that they're everywhere is just crazy to me. I used to think it was because they were cheaper than average cars (which would make perfect sense when you look at them, study their history, understand construction techniques, etc) but man was I mistaken...

                              I walked the Carmax lot with my 13yo yesterday and you should have seen the look of disappointment when he got into a '21 Gladiator Overland and looked up at the hardtop and tapped on it. $52k. When you're disappointing a pre-teen boy with a Jeep, something is wrong.

                              My take is there might come a day when Wranglers drop by 30%+ (which is still probably better profit margin than most cars unless they're doing something very wrong on the business side). But I'm holding the line until that day comes. And everyone else needs to do the same or it will never work πŸ™‚

                              Just imagine Ryan Reynolds' low-cost backup stunt double.

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                              • Throwaway
                                Throwaway @Milky last edited by

                                @Milky My girlfriend has a CX50 and it's pretty nice. I like how it drives and rides.

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                                • Dr. Zoidberg
                                  Dr. Zoidberg @Milky last edited by

                                  @Milky I've recently driven a CX-50 (non turbo). It was a pleasant experience. It was $32k MSRP at the not-quite-base trim. If you want that Zircon color, I believe that's the top turbo trim only, which starts at $42k.

                                  I'm gonna vote for the IS anyway because I am required to do so 😎

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                                  • Milky
                                    Milky @HFV_Junkyardin last edited by

                                    @HFV_Junkyardin People like toys 🀷, I daily drive a miata with a soft top through Michigan winters so dont look to me for reasoning.

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                                    • Milky
                                      Milky @Dr. Zoidberg last edited by

                                      @Dr-Zoidberg Really what I want is a not all black interior and turbo, which would be $39k. But the meridian trim does have more sidewall.
                                      Also, Im still mad the IS500 is expensive and hasn't wont depreciate.

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                                      • HFV_Junkyardin
                                        HFV_Junkyardin @Milky last edited by

                                        @Milky I'd rather daily a Miata... and am doing that.
                                        My Miata doesn't sound like it has a bucket full of action figures bouncing around in the back every time I run over a small bump.

                                        (Speedy Speed Boy woa oh woa oh)
                                        (Speed Boy Speed Boy woa oh woa oh)

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                                        • Milky
                                          Milky @HFV_Junkyardin last edited by Milky

                                          @HFV_Junkyardin Why not both?
                                          I get your point but Wranglers aren't rational purchases. I like the idea of one because I miss the XJ I had, would really like some defense since the Miata has been hit 4 times, plus it would be much better in the snow and I could goto the dunes once a year.
                                          Is that worth the general annoyance of daily driving one? TBD honestly

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                                          • Zaphod's Heart of Gold
                                            Zaphod's Heart of Gold @Milky last edited by

                                            @Milky I would daily a Wrangler...actually I did for a while. 05 rubicon with a 4" lift and 33s. The ride wasn't an issue for me but the fuel consumption was.

                                            Now I drive a really long Wrangler that does everything an older wrangler does but better (except trails because length) and I love it. I don't need it but I want it, and I have to drive something I want or I'll waste a bunch of money getting something I want.

                                            2020 Gladiator, 1956 F100 project, 1993 Eagle Summit race van, Mystery car?

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                                            • Finnish Insider
                                              Finnish Insider @Milky last edited by

                                              @Milky you ain't wrong for feeling that way, pal. haha

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                                              • Qaaaaa
                                                Qaaaaa @Milky last edited by

                                                @Milky Or just like, change the diff. Takes like two hours

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                                                • atfsgeoff
                                                  atfsgeoff @drVanTraveler last edited by

                                                  @drVanTraveler said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                                                  My GR Corolla advanced cruise slows down for sweeping curves, and that's just silly. Might be ok for panicky crossover drivers, but not on the GRC.

                                                  There is a setting you can adjust to reduce or eliminate curve slowdown during cruise. Found that while exploring the menu options in @BigXSEnergy's Camry.

                                                  All things are possible with the power of sidewall

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                                                  • MM54
                                                    MM54 @Finnish Insider last edited by

                                                    @Finnish-Insider said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                                                    Even the older CX5 had handles that would make other crossovers blush.

                                                    A few years ago I absolutely roasted the brakes on a rental CX5 after briefly forgetting what I was driving. Fortunately the brakes are as good as the rest of the handling (well, they were before that).

                                                    Craigslist will push me, and I'll say no; read my lips: no new projects.

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                                                    • drVanTraveler
                                                      drVanTraveler @atfsgeoff last edited by

                                                      @atfsgeoff said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                                                      @drVanTraveler said in Miata is having troubles, back to car shopping again.:

                                                      My GR Corolla advanced cruise slows down for sweeping curves, and that's just silly. Might be ok for panicky crossover drivers, but not on the GRC.

                                                      There is a setting you can adjust to reduce or eliminate curve slowdown during cruise. Found that while exploring the menu options in @BigXSEnergy's Camry.

                                                      Welp, you are correct! It is fairly buried in digi dash settings, but I finally got there after digging in the manual.
                                                      Thanks!

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