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    Where are all the two door mk7s?

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    • WhoIsTheLeader
      WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

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      I saw this two door Volkswagen Golf GTI mk7 the other day and realized that you simply NEVER see them. Two door mk6s, occasionally yes, but two door mk7s are surprisingly elusive. Why is this? Out of all of the mk7 owners here, I can't think of anyone that has a two door Golf.

      Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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      • Adabofoppo- Has Gone Plaid
        Adabofoppo- Has Gone Plaid last edited by

        They stopped building them for the US within the last couple years.

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        • Fancy Toyota-Family
          Fancy Toyota-Family last edited by

          They stopped production either in early ‘17 or late ‘16. On top of that, they were order only in their last year I believe, and only in S trim for their last year.

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          • e90m3
            e90m3 @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

            @whoistheleader Ah, fourth street.

            E90 M3
            E92 328i

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            • Tripper
              Tripper @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

              @whoistheleader Hah didn't even know there was a 2 door mk7! It looks so right on the Mk4's but so odd to me here. Had to be that they weren't selling. I know my mom ditched her cooper S for a GTI so it was easier for her to get my kiddo in the back.

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              • dogisbadob
                dogisbadob last edited by

                In the junkyard! 👻 👻 👻 😬 💩 😹 🤣 🤣 🤣

                (sorry, I had to)

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                • WhoIsTheLeader
                  WhoIsTheLeader @dogisbadob last edited by

                  @dogisbadob Well that's where many will end up but VW has (slightly) improved since the 2000s.

                  Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                  • WhoIsTheLeader
                    WhoIsTheLeader @Tripper last edited by

                    @tripper I know, right? I had to look it up to make sure they were sold here at all. You can barely even find good pictures online of US spec ones. I guess non-novel (ie Mini) two doors don't sell anymore.

                    Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                    • WhoIsTheLeader
                      WhoIsTheLeader @Fancy Toyota-Family last edited by

                      @fancy-toyota-family I really wonder why they had such a crazy low take rate though. It made sense to discontinue them early in the car's life considering how poorly they sold but I think they could have sold more if they had tried.

                      Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                        ForSweden last edited by

                        Replaced by the better four doors, God Willing

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                        • WhoIsTheLeader
                          WhoIsTheLeader @e90m3 last edited by

                          @e90m3 Indeed. Fourth street. It was definitely a vibe walking along at 3 AM last night.

                          Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                          • Fancy Toyota-Family
                            Fancy Toyota-Family @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                            @whoistheleader I feel like with the introduction of a 4 door GTI it broadened it’s appeal to those looking for an ‘adult-ish’ fun car and that’s why the 4 door became the standard build.
                            When the Mk7 came out I was considering buying a 2 door but local dealers never kept many in stock.

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                            • Qaaaaa
                              Qaaaaa last edited by

                              In hell, where they belong. Coupes are stupid, but not as stupid as two door hatches. Hatches are supposed to be the most utility possible in as small a footprint as possible, and removing two doors negates 40% of that utility.

                              Four doors for more... utility.

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                              • WhoIsTheLeader
                                WhoIsTheLeader @Qaaaaa last edited by

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                                But two doors! I've found the back seat of a two door mk6 Golf to be pretty easy to get in and out of and pretty roomy for the size of the vehicle.

                                Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                                • WhoIsTheLeader
                                  WhoIsTheLeader @Fancy Toyota-Family last edited by

                                  @fancy-toyota-family That's a good point. The mk7 really felt like more of a grownup fun car than a youth oriented hot hatch compared to previous generations. And adults need four doors often for responsible adult things.

                                  Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                                  • Qaaaaa
                                    Qaaaaa @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                    @whoistheleader Yeah, two door Golf are easy to get into the back of... for a two door. You know what's easier to get into the back seat of?

                                    A four door Golf.

                                    The only thing a two door wins at IMO is aesthetics, which... don't really matter at all when you're inside the car, much less driving. And like... hatchbacks are ugly. There, I said it. All of them look like shit. I love them but they look like shit.

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                                    • dogisbadob
                                      dogisbadob @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                      @whoistheleader said in Where are all the two door mk7s?:

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                                      But two doors! I've found the back seat of a two door mk6 Golf to be pretty easy to get in and out of and pretty roomy for the size of the vehicle.

                                      If you can't decide between a 2-door or a 4-door, get a 3-door! 😂 😂

                                      In the KDM you can actually get a 4-door Veloster

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                                      • WhoIsTheLeader
                                        WhoIsTheLeader @dogisbadob last edited by

                                        @dogisbadob WHAT? FOUR DOOR VELOSTER? Is that what this is? I was looking at this image and was really really confused.

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                                        I am finding all of these photos with a driver's side passenger door and I was so confused.

                                        Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                                        • WhoIsTheLeader
                                          WhoIsTheLeader @Qaaaaa last edited by

                                          @qaaaaa Yes, for a two door, but also lots of smaller four doors have such narrow door openings that if you don't use the back seats often it's better to get the two door so you can get out of the thing easier from the driver's seat. It's not really a huge deal.

                                          Also:

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                                          Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                                          • dogisbadob
                                            dogisbadob @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                            @whoistheleader said in Where are all the two door mk7s?:

                                            @dogisbadob WHAT? FOUR DOOR VELOSTER? Is that what this is? I was looking at this image and was really really confused.

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                                            I am finding all of these photos with a driver's side passenger door and I was so confused.

                                            British-market Velosters have two doors on the left and one door on the right. Same for other RHD markets.

                                            I think the 4-door Veloster is only sold in Korea, but I could be wrong.

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                                            • Qaaaaa
                                              Qaaaaa @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                              @whoistheleader I guess I'll agree in the case of subcompacts like the 500, mini, Micra, Up!, and stuff that size where the back seat exists as an "if you must". Having sat in the back of a 500 and a mini, they'd both be better off as two seaters. A Golf? No, that car can totally fit three people in back. There should be back doors.

                                              However, in general, I'm of the opinion that if there exists sedan and hatchback version of the same car, the sedan looks better nine times out of ten.

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                                              • WhoIsTheLeader
                                                WhoIsTheLeader @Qaaaaa last edited by

                                                @qaaaaa I think the larger the car, the better it looks as a sedan. For instance, the Fiesta sedan was an abomination while I think the Jetta looks a good deal better than the Golf. I feel like it's around 50/50 in compacts. For your consideration:

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                                                In my opinion, the first gen (non US) hatchback looked much worse than the sedan and then things flipped in the second.

                                                You are definitely right in that subcompact hatchbacks' back seats are such a joke that they only need two doors. But regular compacts can make sense as two doors depending on their overall size and what you are using it for.

                                                Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                                                • KA467
                                                  KA467 @Fancy Toyota-Family last edited by

                                                  @fancy-toyota-family said in Where are all the two door mk7s?:

                                                  @whoistheleader I feel like with the introduction of a 4 door GTI it broadened it’s appeal to those looking for an ‘adult-ish’ fun car and that’s why the 4 door became the standard build.

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                                                  There was always a 5 door GTi available from the start in Europe.

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                                                  • Fancy Toyota-Family
                                                    Fancy Toyota-Family @KA467 last edited by

                                                    @ka467 I’m not 100% sure about USA offerings, but I think we only got 4 door GTI’s starting with the Mk5.

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                                                    • Jb boin
                                                      Jb boin last edited by

                                                      I am not sure they were still available in Europe either after 2017 or 2018, they are quite rare here.

                                                      And a 3 doors with it's bigger and heavier doors is not practical for a city use plus the folding seats that are an additional reliability risk.

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