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    • Just Jeepin'
      Just Jeepin' last edited by Just Jeepin'

      For both my employer, and for the company to whom I'm contracted, I use Microsoft Authenticator for two-factor authentication (2FA or MFA to those "in the know").

      It's a mediocre app, made worse by their decision to kill Apple Watch support this year. Being able to simply tap my watch for other MFA apps is quite nice.

      It's also super annoying in that, to protect myself against some non-trivial amount of headache next time I want to migrate to a new phone, the only backup option Microsoft supports is via a Microsoft personal account.

      So this evening I decided to bite the bullet and create such an entity. My first Microsoft personal account ever, unless you count GitHub which they swallowed. (At least, I'm pretty sure I never owned a Hotmail email account, which they also swallowed.)

      First obstacle: their version of CAPTCHA to make sure I'm not a robot is, well, a little daunting. As a computer professional it took me 30 seconds or so to figure out what they were asking for. My grandmother never would have stood a chance.

      Screenshot 2023-03-18 at 7.11.14 PM.png

      But more importantly, it doesn't work! After proving myself to not be a robot after a minute or two of clicking, it asked again, and I once again proved myself human, and then it asked again.

      Bite me, Microsoft.


      Update: after fuming a bit I switched browsers, created a new email address reflecting just how little I value Microsoft, and was able to finish creating an account.

      Apparently they just don't like Safari. Or maybe I just wasn't facing the right direction for my entreaties to be heard previously.

      On walkabout. Back soonish.

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      • Just Jeepin'
        Just Jeepin' last edited by

        And for "what the hell I've wasted enough of my life might as well try again" purposes, yes, the 3rd time also succeeded but also just sent me straight back into another verification loop.

        On walkabout. Back soonish.

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        • flatisflat
          flatisflat @Just Jeepin' last edited by

          @Just-Jeepin

          Microsoft CAPTCHA verification: "Let's see if we can turn them into a robot before granting them approval that they aren't a robot."

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          • Nicky Chagrin Janitor of SHIELD
            Nicky Chagrin Janitor of SHIELD @Just Jeepin' last edited by

            @Just-Jeepin Are... are they asking you to point out the dick pics?

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            • MM54
              MM54 @Just Jeepin' last edited by

              @Just-Jeepin My favorite was when I got a new phone for work and had to activate the authenticator application on the new phone by completing 2-factor authentication... which I couldn't do because the application wasn't activated on this phone but was already disabled on the old one.

              Craigslist will push me, and I'll say no; read my lips: no new projects.

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              • Just Jeepin'
                Just Jeepin' @MM54 last edited by

                @MM54 Yeah, that's exactly the kind of fun I'm trying to avoid.

                On walkabout. Back soonish.

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                • Exage03040
                  Exage03040 @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                  @Just-Jeepin

                  I read you

                  Personally just given up on why Lightroom and Photoshop won't read/import photos from my Nikon anymore despite factory settings and formatting the SD but Lightroom Classic and Bridge does (also my phone)... FML [Yes, all File Permissions are enabled for everything]. Probably do uninstall on those 2 and see why they're buggered.

                  ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/70761/this-or-that-240

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                  • tophercrowder
                    tophercrowder @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                    @Just-Jeepin i miss my Zune

                    SHARE YOUR CANDY

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                    • Just Jeepin'
                      Just Jeepin' @Exage03040 last edited by

                      @Exage03040 Ugh, hardware troubleshooting, my eternal bane.

                      Have you tried using a card reader?

                      On walkabout. Back soonish.

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                      • Exage03040
                        Exage03040 @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                        @Just-Jeepin

                        I don't have one and just have the MacBook Air so no slot. Normally I just import via cable from the camera.

                        Weirdly, I see the pictures and can do it from the Nikon with Bridge, Lightroom Classic. As well as Bluetooth to iPhone with Snapbridge App.

                        Reasoning I have is that when I upgraded the OS to Ventura I figure something in the file permissions is buried and not allowing it to import (those were the two Adobe Apps on this MB A that I only ever imported from the Nikon before).

                        ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/70761/this-or-that-240

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                        • Just Jeepin'
                          Just Jeepin' @Exage03040 last edited by

                          @Exage03040 You might be onto something with file permissions. Apple has definitely locked down general file access for security.

                          What I would try:

                          • Buy (or just borrow) a USB-C compatible card reader. Heck, buy it and if it doesn't help, return it. You can get one for well under $20.
                          • If you still can't access it from the apps, copy the photos via Finder and then try importing them.
                          • macOS provides a "Files and Folders" list of application access under "Privacy & Security" in System Settings. You might find a slider or three under your apps.

                          Screenshot 2023-03-18 at 8.32.50 PM.png

                          On walkabout. Back soonish.

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                          • bison78
                            bison78 @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                            @Just-Jeepin

                            My pet hate with 2FA implementations is when they send you a 7 or 8 digit 1 time code. It's utterly pointless. There is no need to use more than 4 digits. These are one-time-codes. Brute forcing should not be possible.

                            If they need you to type the code in on a different machine, they could send you a dictionary word. It would be easier to remember and quite secure.

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                            • dejock
                              dejock @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                              @Just-Jeepin just know your IT staff had until late may to push the button to turn on number matching and completely render your Apple Watch useless (although Microsoft stopped supporting the Apple Watch version with updates back in December)

                              Signed, the guy waiting to push the button and render everyone’s Apple Watch useless 🙃

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                              • Just Jeepin'
                                Just Jeepin' @dejock last edited by

                                @dejock I deleted it from my Watch in December.

                                It was broken for one of my accounts and always had a clunkier interface than PingID, so ultimately it was no huge loss.

                                On walkabout. Back soonish.

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                                • ttyymmnn
                                  ttyymmnn @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                                  @Just-Jeepin

                                  As a lifelong Apple user, I have learned that there are some things that simply don't work on Safari, for whatever reason.

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                                  • pip bip
                                    pip bip @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                                    @Just-Jeepin i ditched my Hotmail email account due to the large volume of spam i was getting.

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                                    • RallyDarkstrike
                                      RallyDarkstrike @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                                      @Just-Jeepin said in I hate Microsoft:

                                      Apparently they just don't like Safari.

                                      I will say as somebody who does computer repair and who is using all browsers on everybody's different computers all the time, Safari is the one I often see the most trouble with in terms of things loading correctly or certain functions working right. Chrome is probably the most spot on (and current Edge, I guess, as it's based on Chrome) and Firefox a close second to that. I still prefer Firefox though as you can adjust and customize it a lot more.

                                      Maybe not everybody's experience with Safari, it's just what I've noticed from my experience of about 12 years doing computer stuffs on the side.

                                      I've had my MS account since like....2001....so I've not created a new MS account for a LONG time. I don't think I've ever seen that kind of captcha before :S

                                      '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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