New Zealand wins again...

[SilentbutnotreallyDeadly]

This is brilliant.

[CB]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly People don't like it when you tell them about the consequences of their actions roadside, and for the most part, don't care. Physics is a real pain in the ass.

[SilentbutnotreallyDeadly]

@CB
As someone who has experienced this particular brand of physics before...I often wonder whether simulated crash training (like a flight simulator and then some) might be a useful thing for drivers to experience. Or would we end up with a nation of totally traumatized drivers?

[Just Jeepin']

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly I recall one school dropped a car off the roof (3rd floor?) and pointed out to their students that was equivalent force to a relatively low-speed accident. I’m sure that made an impression.

[siennaman]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly said in New Zealand wins again...:

@CB
As someone who has experienced this particular brand of physics before...I often wonder whether simulated crash training (like a flight simulator and then some) might be a useful thing for drivers to experience. Or would we end up with a nation of totally traumatized drivers?

Maybe as part of the consequences of speeding? That way the folks who don't aren't traumatized?

[SilentbutnotreallyDeadly]

@siennaman
This is sensibly evil. Therefore I support it!!

[SilentbutnotreallyDeadly]

@Just-Jeepin said in New Zealand wins again...:

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly I recall one school dropped a car off the roof (3rd floor?) and pointed out to their students that was equivalent force to a relatively low-speed accident. I’m sure that made an impression.

If the kids had the right imagination it might. But there's nothing like the visceral experience...

[siennaman]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly said in New Zealand wins again...:

@siennaman
This is sensibly evil. Therefore I support it!!

The great part about that statement is I make it as someone who has been ticketed twice for speeding and the one was dangerous enough, in hindsight, that I think such a reminder of the potential consequences would have been healthy. (also, people just shouldn't be asshats to cops who pull them over for speeding. You were doing something wrong and got caught, live with it!)

[іди на хуй Влад - formerly known as Distraxi]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly said in New Zealand wins again...:

@CB
As someone who has experienced this particular brand of physics before...I often wonder whether simulated crash training (like a flight simulator and then some) might be a useful thing for drivers to experience. Or would we end up with a nation of totally traumatized drivers?

As part of a "strap your baby into a child seat" campaign a few years ago, we had a bunch of "try holding onto your baby in a crash" simulators set up in malls: seat with seatbelts, dashboard, screen to play a driving/crash video on, and a doll attached by a cable over a pulley to a big counterweight which got released when the "crash" happened. They were inviting anyone they saw with a pushchair to have a go, and offering a prize to anyone who could hang on to the doll. Surprise surprise, even the biggest toughest guys had the doll ripped straight out of their arms when the latch was released.

Seemed to leave the right impression, inasmuch as it shocked everyone I saw try it just how violently the baby got torn off them, but it was either judged ineffective or (more likely) too expensive, because I only saw them for a few months then never again.

[Roadkilled]

@іди-на-хуй-Влад-formerly-known-as-Distraxi

That made me think of being a kid riding in the front seat. This was back in the days before shoulder belts. When my mom was driving and came to a hard stop, she would reach out with her right arm to try to keep me from flying forward. The lap belt did its job, which is good. A 110 pound woman wasn't going to hold back a 60 pound kid in a panic stop.

[ttyymmnn]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly

That's intense. But this one still hits me in the feels.

[Nauraushaun]

@CB said in New Zealand wins again...:

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly People don't like it when you tell them about the consequences of their actions roadside, and for the most part, don't care. Physics is a real pain in the ass.

i think the issue is that their actions don't have consequences, hundreds of times in a row. our ape brains learn that speeding doesn't have risk associated with it, and we find it hard to recognise that in very rare situations it could make the difference between serious injury/death and not.

[Svend]

@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly
New Zealand police enjoying their Skoda Superbs.
What always grinds my gears is that line, 'why aren't you catching real criminals?'.
The police like all emergency services are predominantly 'reactive' services, they react to calls, alerts, etc...
If they are reacting to you speeding, etc... it delays them when they need to react to other incidents.
So if anything, you are actually holding them away while they deal with you.

'you'=people in general, no one in particular