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    Should GM discontinue Buick and Bring LaSalle, Pontiac, Holden, and SAAB back

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    • Sam Blockhan
      Sam Blockhan @Guest last edited by

      @Mr-Hawk GM no longer owns Saab, and hasn't since the sale to Spyker ~2010. When Spyker went bankrupt, they sold Saab to a Chinese company. They are now NEVS, and struggling.

      However, Saab Defense still exists, and does not allow NEVS to use the Saab name or logo, which is a good thing, since NEVS is going electric/autonomous. I would never want an electric/autonomous Saab.

      Weather update, cooler temperatures today, and the floor is no longer lava.

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      • Mr.Ontop
        Mr.Ontop @Guest last edited by

        @Mr-Hawk I don't know, I saw one of these in person a while back. 5b5aa622-688b-4556-929f-586a2b59d018-image.png A Buick Regal Wagon and the photo doesn't do it justice. It's even more beautiful in person. If only it were available with a stick shift!

        I've seen things that you could not comprehend..without a couple of drinks

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        • davesaddiction
          davesaddiction @Guest last edited by

          @Mr-Hawk

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          manual . RWD . LS3 . MagneRide . Brembos ... 4 doors + 5 seatbelts

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          • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
            gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @CB last edited by

            @CB domestically gmc make 2-3 times the profit of chevys due to loaded trim options.
            Also the more dealers are more often partnered with Buick or Cadillac

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            • Bandit
              Bandit @CB last edited by Bandit

              @CB I bought a GMC Canyon over a Chevy colorado because I didn't like dealing with pushy Chevy salesmen, looking at Chevy customers while shopping, or dealing with Chevy service waiting rooms lol. The GMC/Buick dealers were all more high brow in the area I lived in at the time. Call me the car equivalent of a NIMBY.

              Edit: I should mention this comes after I went to a Chevy dealer to test drive a new Colorado and the salesman insisted he would have to ride with me, wouldn't let me leave the parking lot, and then tried to push me into a Cruze hatchback. Like someone in their 20s on an engineering salary couldn't afford a sub-$30k new pickup truck? I had such a better time with the Cadillac and GMC dealers that I vowed to never go back to a Chevy-specific place.

              1981 Pontiac Trans Am
              2019 GMC Canyon

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              • Exage03040
                Exage03040 @pickup_man last edited by

                @pickup_man @CB

                It's weird how it works but I have the same thinking.

                GMC just says "truck" more to me than Chevy does. If anything Chevy is the one that should just relinquish the pickup, express van, mid and large SUV lines. Chevy can just do cars and CUV. I've also sort of thought the GMC badge versions always had that minor edge on exterior styling.

                Admittedly you lose some historical nameplates with Silverado, Tahoe and Blazer. GMC could take back the Suburban nameplate that was shared previously, I believe that's better than Yukon XL. Most of the historical packages and trims were shared previously; ZR2, Z-71. If they wanted to do Chevy SS these days then they may as well put high-boost snails on whatever they're doing and make it Typhoon or Syclone trims.

                The GMC Denali trim line holds way more recognition than the Chevy LTZ (it may actually have the most out of the big three SUV/Pick-up premium trims over the Limited of both Ford and Ram/Dodge, mostly because they keep dicking around with what the top trim is every few years and it's not always across the line up). Chevrolet Hummer screams all kinds of wrong.

                ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/66761/this-or-that-235

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                • DrDanteiii
                  DrDanteiii @pip bip last edited by DrDanteiii

                  @pip-bip GMC sold almost 518k vehicles in 2022. Even if they are all duplicates the cost to keep GMC alive is minimal to maintain the brand loyalty. Also the GMC versions are generally better looking than their chevy counterparts. For arguments sake, lets say 95% would probably just switch to Chevy, but that 5% is significant.

                  GMC isn't going anywhere.

                  72 CJ5 V8
                  03 E39 525i 5mt
                  08 Tundra
                  19 Pilot
                  20 Vstrom 650
                  01 XR400r

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                  • I
                    ibRAD @CB last edited by

                    @CB I prefer expensive chevy to regular chevy though.

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                    • Fish McSticks
                      Fish McSticks @Guest last edited by

                      @Mr-Hawk Cadillac should move up and compete with Maybach, Bentley, and Rolls-Royce in the ultra luxury market. Buick should take the place of Cadillac, making cars to compete with Mercedes.

                      Currently a Senior in HS

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                      • Bandit
                        Bandit @Fish McSticks last edited by

                        @Fish-McSticks They are: https://www.cadillac.com/electric/celestiq a9fc5a05-22f9-4c9f-a3d9-f4f2eafd47eb-image.png

                        1981 Pontiac Trans Am
                        2019 GMC Canyon

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                        • lokerola
                          lokerola last edited by

                          Saab!!!!

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                          • SilentbutnotreallyDeadly
                            SilentbutnotreallyDeadly @Mr.Ontop last edited by

                            @Mr-Ontop
                            Nice Opel...

                            Approaching hedges arse first...for quite some time

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                            • Mr.Ontop
                              Mr.Ontop @SilentbutnotreallyDeadly last edited by

                              @SilentbutnotreallyDeadly indeed, it is.

                              I've seen things that you could not comprehend..without a couple of drinks

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @SilentbutnotreallyDeadly last edited by

                                @SilentbutnotreallyDeadly.
                                Yeah Buick is just done for. They went successful with the boats to NASCAR now they don't even race anymore. Its ok all the Great GM platforms are gone like the B and C bodies.

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