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    • ranwhenparked
      ranwhenparked last edited by ranwhenparked

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      Interesting car, looks like a pretty clean conversion, and probably makes it pretty usable. Nothing of value lost, either, considering the stock powertrain was pretty unremarkable. Not familiar with the Executive model name though, I expect its really a Deluxe.

      For those not aware, Kaiser-Frazer was the last newly established American automaker to achieve mainstream success, until Tesla (and Tesla's has already proved more sustainable). They were also considered pretty innovative in styling, being the first on the market with new, postwar designs when the Big Three were stuck with 1942 models. Kaiser popularized integrating the headlamps fully into the fenders, without the pontoon fender look, smooth slab sides, and the 3-box notchback sedan, all of which made the prewar cars look pretty old fashioned. The Big Three all took cues from them for their own new postwar models in 1949.

      And, of course, they later did an early proto-hatchback with the Traveler and Vagabond, and a 4-door convertible with the Virginian.

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      2022 Ioniq SE
      2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
      1964 Corvair Monza

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      • jminer
        jminer @ranwhenparked last edited by

        @ranwhenparked are you counting Kaiser as successful as they kept being absorbed instead of being killed? I mean technically they bought Willys and became Kaiser - Willys which is now part of stelantis.

        Former hoarder of motorcycles, recent CA transplant, nerd.

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        • ranwhenparked
          ranwhenparked @jminer last edited by

          @jminer Well, they hit six figure sales (300,000 in the first 18 months or so) and peaked at 5.4% market share - they were successful for a period of time, just couldn't maintain it.

          2022 Ioniq SE
          2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
          1964 Corvair Monza

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          • jminer
            jminer @ranwhenparked last edited by

            @ranwhenparked I'm following your logic now. For some reason I was thinking successful meant it survived to today.

            Former hoarder of motorcycles, recent CA transplant, nerd.

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            • Just Jeepin'
              Just Jeepin' last edited by

              Naw. This is a Kaiser.

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              On walkabout. Back soonish.

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              • WhoIsTheLeader
                WhoIsTheLeader @ranwhenparked last edited by

                @ranwhenparked I really don't mind putting a C4 drivetrain into it. How many gears does the auto have? 5? I'm guessing it replaced a three on the tree.

                Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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                • ranwhenparked
                  ranwhenparked @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                  @whoistheleader Nothing as interesting as that, its a Ford C4 automatic, which is a 3 speed, hooked up to their ubiquitous 302 V8, drivetrain could have come from any number of Ford/Mercury/Lincoln cars from the 1960s-1980s.

                  Stock would have been a Continental flathead straight six with maybe 100 or 110hp and the 3 speed column shift manual.

                  2022 Ioniq SE
                  2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
                  1964 Corvair Monza

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                  • ranwhenparked
                    ranwhenparked @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                    @just-jeepin I dunno, just looks like a Kia to me

                    2022 Ioniq SE
                    2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
                    1964 Corvair Monza

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                    • WhoIsTheLeader
                      WhoIsTheLeader @ranwhenparked last edited by

                      @ranwhenparked Well, I got that really wrong. I was hoping for at least one gear gained if you're going to do an automatic swap. Still, the drivetrain would be an upgrade in terms of power, driving dynamics, and serviceability.

                      Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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                      • WhoIsTheLeader
                        WhoIsTheLeader @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                        @just-jeepin In case you don't get @ranwhenparked 's Kia comment, they still will sell you a version of that vehicle brand new in the form of the KM450.

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                        Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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                        • Just Jeepin'
                          Just Jeepin' @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                          @whoistheleader Yep, I did a little research once upon a time to see whether there was any way to import one of those. No joy.

                          On walkabout. Back soonish.

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                          • WhoIsTheLeader
                            WhoIsTheLeader @Just Jeepin' last edited by

                            @just-jeepin Sadly. They really aren't terribly expensive for what they are. Here's a cool UN livery armored troop carrier for your time.

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                            Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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                            • ranwhenparked
                              ranwhenparked @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                              @whoistheleader Its pretty understandable to assume C4 = 4 speeds, but, nope, Ford can't be that logical.

                              2022 Ioniq SE
                              2008 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
                              1964 Corvair Monza

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