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    GUYS.....I HAVE SOLVED MODERN VEHICLE SECURITY.

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    • RallyDarkstrike
      RallyDarkstrike last edited by RallyDarkstrike

      I imagine most of you know of my disdain for modern proximity key ignition systems in vehicles which people with a a Raspberry Pi and a bit of basic coding knowhow (or, you know....like...just access to the seedier parts of the internet) can use to steal pretty much anything from Teslas to Mazdas (as some of our own Oppos all-too-sadly know)...

      SO, I have come up with the ultimate combo system for modern vehicle security using the technology of the past!

      OK,ok, hear me out before you start throwing large wads of cash my way....I'll at least explain it first.

      One.....chip ignition keys. We need these back....BUT....the ignition switch on the column doesn't START the car, but merely activate power! They work the same as they always did, providing a physical layer of security (the key) AND a technology layer of security (the RFID chip) to overcome.....BUT....

      WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET! That's right....there is one more layer of technology that I am adding to make vehicles invincible. WE'RE BRINGING BACK HAND-CRANKING....because what thief is going to want to waste time trying to start cars that way! Yup, cars will have a compression release to somewhat ease crank starting and a crank start will be used to actually start the engine....BUT...the tip of the crank that engages with the engine will ALSO have a bike-lock style circular key head cut into the end of the crank handle that engages with a lock on the crank for maximum sekuritiez! Like this:
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      Yeah, yeah, I know those key types are easier to pick...but if you already have to defeat two security measures AND crank the car, you're not going to want to be bothered to defeat this too...imagine trying to do all of this in the cold or rain!

      It's genius. I think I'll retire now and live off the sweet sweet income I'm about to make.

      *** Disclaimer.....RallyDarkstrike MAY have just had a massive mug of hot chocolate and may be currently on a massive sugar high ***

      '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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      • WhoIsTheLeader
        WhoIsTheLeader @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

        @rallydarkstrike Yes, but if you can't be bothered to hand crank a car to get it for free, why would you pay money for such a vehicle?

        Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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        • BaconSandwich
          BaconSandwich @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

          @rallydarkstrike part of me kind of likes the idea of a USB key based security system. Need to copy a key for a friend? Just copy the file to a new USB stick. I'm sure it's rife with terrible security holes, but it does seem kind of neat.

          Alternatively: you're just going to make Lock Picking Lawyer a little more tired before he manages to steal your car.

          2001 Honda Civic
          2008 Toyota Sienna

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          • facw
            facw @RallyDarkstrike last edited by facw

            @rallydarkstrike Oh sure, let's use the lock type that can be picked with a Bic pen...

            Also thieves would just use a (stolen) cordless drill/driver/impact to turn the crank. So would I (mine wouldn't be stolen)!

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            • RallyDarkstrike
              RallyDarkstrike @facw last edited by

              @facw Oh sure, nit-pick my brilliant plan! 😕 😛

              '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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              • RallyDarkstrike
                RallyDarkstrike @BaconSandwich last edited by

                @baconsandwich Not sure I'd trust a USB-style type key system....I don't trust the overly techy systems we have now.

                I mean, the BEST security measure is just bring back manual transmissions 😛

                '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                • RallyDarkstrike
                  RallyDarkstrike @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                  @whoistheleader ...because you'll be the envy of all your friends because of how secure your car is and also, think of all the free arm workouts you'll get without even trying! YOU'LL HAVE SUCH BIG GUNS!

                  '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                  • WhoIsTheLeader
                    WhoIsTheLeader @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                    @rallydarkstrike But then the thieves would have even bigger guns. . .

                    Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and captain of a 1985 Mercedes 300D

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                    • BritsnSwedes was MINIGTI
                      BritsnSwedes was MINIGTI @RallyDarkstrike last edited by BritsnSwedes was MINIGTI

                      @rallydarkstrike @WhoIsTheLeader the very early Jaguar XK-120 c1950 was probably one of the last production cars that actually came with a hand crank. Good luck starting that massive (3.8l?) DOHC 6-cyl.

                      85 Jaguar XJ6; 98 SAAB 900 convertible
                      13 MINI
                      16 Volvo V60CC
                      76 TR6

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                      • RallyDarkstrike
                        RallyDarkstrike @BritsnSwedes was MINIGTI last edited by

                        @britsnswedes-was-minigti I think the Citroen 2CV still had the provision for the hand crank it all the way until 1990!

                        '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                        • Italia
                          Italia @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                          @rallydarkstrike well tube locks are defeated by nice pens in many cases so make sure that doesn't work to crank your car.

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                          • Chariotoflove
                            Chariotoflove @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                            @rallydarkstrike

                            This might just work!

                            But I’d never find out because I’d rather take the bus.

                            Curator, Kia enthusiast, dad joke specialist

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                            • Manwich
                              Manwich @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                              @rallydarkstrike
                              That's stupid! What you really need to add an additional latch that the baddies will NEVER figure out:
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                              😛

                              2008 Honda Fit
                              A Known Dad, prone to Dad Jokes
                              Full of Meaty Goodness

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                              • Old Busted Hotness
                                Old Busted Hotness last edited by

                                oh, oh, I know! Just password-protect the starter! Password must be 16 characters and contain upper and lowercase letters, and at least one number and one symbol, and must be reset every six months.

                                Losing his hearing but he don't care what most people say

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                                  @rallydarkstrike You've invented the kill switch!

                                  Wait a second...

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                                  • RallyDarkstrike
                                    RallyDarkstrike @WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

                                    @whoistheleader I'm hoping I'd never have to meet them 😛

                                    '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                    • RallyDarkstrike
                                      RallyDarkstrike @Italia last edited by

                                      @italia It'd have to be an awfully large pen! 😛

                                      '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                      • RallyDarkstrike
                                        RallyDarkstrike @Chariotoflove last edited by

                                        @chariotoflove Pfffttttt....lazy!

                                        '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                        • RallyDarkstrike
                                          RallyDarkstrike @Manwich last edited by

                                          @manwich ....what madness is this? 0_o

                                          '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                          • RallyDarkstrike
                                            RallyDarkstrike @Old Busted Hotness last edited by

                                            @old-busted-hotness Pfffttttt....Ford already did that keypad door password thing....I was trying to go old-school! 😛

                                            '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                            • RallyDarkstrike
                                              RallyDarkstrike @Guest last edited by

                                              @sovande Sorta-kinda-ish? 😛

                                              '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                              • ST80MND
                                                ST80MND @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                                                @rallydarkstrike I always assumed having a manual tranny was good enough.

                                                89' E30, 82' E21, Thrustmaster t300rs. Slow in, fast out.

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                                                • RallyDarkstrike
                                                  RallyDarkstrike @ST80MND last edited by

                                                  @st80mnd Probably in this day and age...

                                                  '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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                                                  • ST80MND
                                                    ST80MND @RallyDarkstrike last edited by

                                                    @rallydarkstrike "I can't steal this! It has no autopilot, won't park itself, has no starbucks, and won't console my snowflake ass when I get caught!

                                                    89' E30, 82' E21, Thrustmaster t300rs. Slow in, fast out.

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                                                    • RallyDarkstrike
                                                      RallyDarkstrike @ST80MND last edited by

                                                      @st80mnd That sounds like my car which has no options whatsoever LOL

                                                      '09 Hyundai Accent | Loves 2-cyl FIATs, old Euro, Eastern Bloc & kei cars!

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