This is a $285K USD Taco Overlander
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@veearrrsix I bought an actual house for less than that. CP
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@veearrrsix That would be a great price if it was also an actual submarine.
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@veearrrsix The truck has a snorkel, so you can drive into water that would be over the top of the hood. However, if you drive into water deep enough that you need the snorkel, the camper section is going to be flooded.
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@roadkilled perhaps, but the door and hatches might be water tight. I hope they are for that amount of cash.
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That's the dumbest shit I've seen all day, and look at what I've been posting.
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@veearrrsix
For plebs who can't afford EarthRoamers or Global Expedition Vehicles.It does fills a price gap between the 4x4 vans (Sprinter and TransConnect) and the ER/GEVs. They are smaller if that's helpful to your needs, but they're getting into Pre-Roamed pricing range. I'm pretty sure I can have a very nice custom solution designed/built for what is ~$235k + the $50k Taco. The Taco while popular, also seems like a bad drivetrain combo for this. I'm not sure what works better from a powertrain standpoint - maybe a ZR2 diesel. Also I don't think this is kosher from payload unless they re-class, but a ZR2's payload won't do this either - nor will a lot of 1/2tons. Huge downside to the mid-sizers, but even the Power Wagon won't have the payload in some configs (950-1400lbs realistically).
A lot of the TRD OffRoad Tacos hover at 1k payload. 2 people (be nice @ 300lb combo) + 30 gal fresh water is 540lbs. Big wheels tires, bumper, skids, big spare, storage box I'll be generous at 200lbs. 260 left for the camper ain't happening. Even dry weight (500lb) I'm not convinced.
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@looseonexit we think alike. Underpowered and grossly overweight does not make a good expedition vehicle. I guess maybe a supercharger would help, but the heat issues would just kill that V6 after a while if I had to guess. Along the same lines I'm sure some decent upfitting on the rear end might mitigate the weight issues, but the base vehicle just seems like a bad choice and aimed at the type of people that would just park this down in the campground of a local surf break and BBQ tofu on some 600 grill while taking pictures for their Insta page.
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@veearrrsix I kinda like the older version more
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@veearrrsix I spent some time at their web site. I get the impression that these are concept drawings. The only close-up photos only show parts of the Toyota. They don't have interior images of the camper and only show a proposed floor plan.
My guess is that this thing is a concept at this point, and the company needs a lot of people to put down a down payment to raise enough money to even build the first one.
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@veearrrsix Gear is fun, and exploring full time requires good, reliable and organized gear...but this is stupid. I can get a maltec explorer 200 for less money. What a joke.
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@hammerheadfistpunch Either a brand new 200 or a fully restored LHD diesel 80 series. I know which one I would have. BTW, I've been in one of these...they are VERY well put together and have everything you need. The restoration jobs are top tier.
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@veearrrsix a supercharged V6 in that thing. Yikes. That'll be single digit mileage.
For $285k, it ought to have a diesel.
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@roadkilled good point. I noticed you have to send over $50K to get started. Who does that without setting foot in one?
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@hammerheadfistpunch I'd much prefer that. LCs are my favorite off roader by a mile. Thanks for sharing, I'd never seen that model before.
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@veearrrsix There are very few of them in the US, but I've seen the few that are here and they are 100% the way to go. Super solid builds, everything you need, nothing you don't.
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@saracen good luck getting that in Mexico's sombrero. I don't think Toyota has sold a diesel here in 30+ years.
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@veearrrsix said in This is a $285K USD Taco Overlander:
@saracen good luck getting that in Mexico's sombrero. I don't think Toyota has sold a diesel here in 30+ years.
I never said it had to be a factory engine
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@saracen Spicy! What are you thinking? 4BT might do nicely...
https://www.4btengines.com/new-engines/cummins-4bt/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0fr_BRDaARIsAABw4EvtADNer3H_HOGT7AEp9FIcY-qhhoR91MoDLm0T_GIgM-J0LBc4jmsaAijxEALw_wcB -
@veearrrsix said in This is a $285K USD Taco Overlander:
@saracen Spicy! What are you thinking? 4BT might do nicely...
https://www.4btengines.com/new-engines/cummins-4bt/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0fr_BRDaARIsAABw4EvtADNer3H_HOGT7AEp9FIcY-qhhoR91MoDLm0T_GIgM-J0LBc4jmsaAijxEALw_wcB4BT would be best for sure!
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@looseonexit wait really? payload includes passengers not just what's in the bed? That seems crazy low, the payload to take my little wagon to GWVR is 950lbs or so
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@spacekraken said in This is a $285K USD Taco Overlander:
@looseonexit wait really? payload includes passengers not just what's in the bed? That seems crazy low, the payload to take my little wagon to GWVR is 950lbs or so
Yes, sort of. Payload is not defined like towing is (J2807). Some manufacturers include 0 driver/passengers, some include the driver (Ram does w/driver @ 150lb). So the door sticker is dependent, but GVWR still has to be adhered to). So if the Ram had an 6010lb GVWR but weighed 5000lbs, no matter what the payload is, the max amount of total weight added to the vehicle can only be 1010lb be it people, boots, a dog, cans of Monster, whatever. My ZR2 payload is 1260 but does not include the driver. So: 1260-160 (me) is 1100 in actual legal payload. Plenty of Ram 1500s running around with sub 1000lb and some sub 900lb payloads (upscale 4x4 EcoDiesels). It also means they don't have the tongue weight capacity to tow very much (10-15% tongue weight for most trailers), no matter the rating.
The Power Wagon is a prime example.
PW GVWR 8565, advertised payload 1510
PW Actual Payload 1149 (free 150lb driver), so with me it's actually 1139
PW Tow Rating 10,350
10% tongue weight 1,035lbs
15% 1,552.5 which is exceeds payload capacity.
@ 10% we have 1139-1035 = 104lbs leftover payload
@ 15% we're 403.5lbs in the holeThe ZR2 works really good at this in regards to payload/max trailer weight ratio.
GVWR 6100
Payload 1260
Tow rating 5000
10% 500lbs, 760lb for payload left
15% 750lbs, 510lb for payload left
I can max tow at 15% with the wife and pre-teen kid and still have over 160lbs payload left.Just to confuse things, the SAE J2807 standard allows you to have 150x2 (driver+passenger) + 100 of towing equipment (hitch, equalizer bars, etc). But you're still actually limited to GVWR and GCWR on the sticker, no matter what the J2807 rating is.
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@veearrrsix "Truckhouse". $285k. Name checks out alright, this thing will definitely need to be your house too at that price!
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@looseonexit well... that's really low if you're carrying, and excellent for towing. Interesting. Starts to explain why everyone I know with in-bed camper rigs uses a 3500 truck.