Echo GTS hatch?
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How hard do you think it would be to fit the 2ZZGE engine and 6sp from this:
Into this:
I think that would be a worthwhile upgrade that would nearly double the current power.
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Difficult and not worth the money or time these days.
Shit doesn't even fit in the Corolla properly.
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@Exage03040 Boo!
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@ibRAD It would probably not be worth it. imo, the echo is a perfect country grid road vehicle. Great "slow car fast" type driving.
I'd say you need lights before HP.
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@ibRAD It would probably be easier to source a 1nz from Scion Xb and turbo it. That's what they put in hot Yarises for Europe and Japan.
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It is a fun backroads vehicle. Now that it's not my commuter, I've taken to calling it my 'sports car' Lights would be a worthwhile upgrade, actually. maybe not the custom fiberglass housing and just bolt on a couple or four Hi lites.
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@KAC It's got a 1NZFE already! There's a turbo kit on ebay for the same price as the Celica I posted above. Wonder what it would take to actually get it working properly.
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@ibRAD Find a Scion TC with the supercharger kit, 200hp/180tq would make that Yaris quite unsafe.
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@ibRAD plenty of room behind the front seats. Just sayin…
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@ibRAD this has been on my "maybe some day" list forever. i believe it is not a plug and play electrical swap and needs custom half-shafts and mounts. it's doable, but not easy. there's someone in thailand that's done a few, but a lot of his stuff over the years has disappeared.
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@ibRAD i hate to be the bearer of bad news (again), but neither the TRD supercharger nor any TC turbo kit will fit the echo 1 hatch out of the box. hood clearance issues for the SC, and as i recall there's nowhere to route a turbo downpipe for something set up for a TC without a lot of work.
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@notsomethingstructural Toyota did it with the first-gen Vitz.
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@aremmes Mine is a first gen Vitz. We had them here in Canada as Echo. Now if I could find those parts...
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people have done it before
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@aremmes correct but i'm 99% sure the JDM TRD Vitz RS stuff is not plug and play to CDM echo hatches, and is also impossibly rare.
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@ibRAD Yes. Per Wikipedia, the 1NZ-FE Turbo made its way to Japan and Europe in the Vitz RS Turbo and Yaris T Sport Turbo, respectively. I imagine it'd be a much easier swap than the larger 2ZZ-GE.
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@aremmes you're talking about a full engine swap, from a different country, with a different set of electronics, for a motor they made like 3000 of, instead of just fabricating a turbo kit that would work for the car he already has. this is getting totally fucking nutty. you'd be lucky to be at $5-6k just to buy and ship the engine and electronic components.
@ibRAD i would love to tune a first gen vitz and have researched it. you are getting terrible, terrible advice on this thread for what you want to be a fun project without breaking the bank. just go learn how turbocharging works, it's not that complicated. buy your own components instead of a kit. fabricate your own hardpipes with silicone couplers like every other broke tuner who did this for the past 20-30 years. get a boost gauge and a brake boost vacuum manifold. get a blowoff valve and a wastegate. pick an appropriately sized turbo like a GT2550 or find a cheap af oil cooled T25. get banjo fittings and an oil pan gravity drain line. look around to see what exhaust manifolds work with the first gen vitz. if you don't know how to weld, the only thing you need fabricated is a downpipe, which a decent shop can usually do for about $200 plus the cost of flanges. this isn't rocket science.
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@notsomethingstructural I know how a turbo works, but I've never built my own system before! That said, I've never done a custom swap before either. I expect the turbo is the easier course.
Edit: where does the 'brake boost vacuum manifold' come into play?
And how do you supply oil to the turbo?
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@ibRAD the brake boost usually has the most vacuum and most accurate boost because it's piped right off the intake manifold, so it's a pretty common reference point for stuff like boost gauges, controllers, sometimes wastegates for lazy people (though these should technically come off the intake coldpipe before the throttle body), and blow-off valves.
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@CarsOfFortLangley I really love the first gen and second gen Echo hatchback....I was cross shopping them way back in 2013 when I bought my Accent, but there were none for sale because their owners all love them!
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@ibRAD It would turn into your own personal Binky. And not in a good way.
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@ibRAD only one way to find out
