Peak Honda
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To me, this gen Accord will always be my favorite. Fantastic reliability, and rust protection was at least better than previous cars (which were awful).
My mom had a burgundy LX-i coupe for a long time. Great, comfortable, reliable car. This one even has a 5 speed, which is slick as hell. -
@WilliamsSW i side with you
also my galant had those knock off bbs wheels -
@farscythe Those wheels were all over the place back then!
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Ayyyy, just had one of these in my bay the other day. Had just over 100k on it and was super clean. Of course it was only still alive because it was a LX-i, all the carbed ones have disappeared. The struggle is working on them and not breaking the old plastic and harness connectors.
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@TheBarber I believe it. Those plastics must be brittle as hell by now.
These did rust away around here, years ago. But they took a lot longer to do it than the previous generation.
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@WilliamsSW Agreed. That generation got us to 90% the modern car.
16 valve engine, digital fuel injection, all disk brakes. The only major differences between it and a Civic today are the Civic would have antilock, electric power steering, a CVT and all electronic HVAC controls. That's not a lot progress for 35 years..... -
@RacinBob said in Peak Honda:
@WilliamsSW Agreed. That generation got us to 90% the modern car.
16 valve engine, digital fuel injection, all disk brakes. The only major differences between it and a Civic today are the Civic would have antilock, electric power steering, a CVT and all electronic HVAC controls. That's not a lot progress for 35 years.....While a lot of changes aren't really selling points for exciting driving, there are a whole bunch of things that improved in those three decades. You have to also consider a bunch of airbags, seatbelt pretensioners, cameras, proximity sensing of other cars & lane position, automatic emergency braking, TPMS, smartphone connectivity, better sound system, improved NVH, and other stuff I'm too lazy to look up.
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Peak Honda will always have my heart. I had an ‘88 Legend and ‘91 Accord, both manual.
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@RacinBob Some of the things you list aren’t even upgrades IMO. Though to be fair, safety has improved significantly in 35 years.
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@davesaddiction Between the 86-89 Accord, and the 90-93, they’re both great. I worked at a Honda dealer for a while around that time, and they were just dead reliable if you maintained them. I preferred the earlier cars (smaller, more driver friendly IMO) but it’s a coin flip.
And yeah, you wanted the fuel injected cars- the DX/LX in the earlier gen were carbureted. All FI from 1990 IIRC. -
@davesaddiction oh and the Legend was on a whole different level. Peak Japanese bubble car.
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@WilliamsSW First post college adult car was an '88 DX hatchback, red with a five speed. Very nice car, two door hatch with usable back seat, not a thing you really see today. Bought it very lightly used, less than a year old, I think less than 10,000 miles.
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@RacinBob I should have said that this generation really does rock the boxes for me also. It has all the stuff I really want in a car without lots of complication that is tough to maintain.
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@WilliamsSW Yes, not upgrades at all. It just goes to show how advanced a '88 honda was that if you drove a new '88 and compared it to a new '22, you would not see a lot of difference except noting that the '88 was about 2500 pounds and the '22 Civic is a lot heavier at about 3000 pounds.
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@WilliamsSW I always liked 90-93, but these are about equal. That one is rocking a factory stereo too, nice.
I wonder if the wheels are "Modern" or "Enkei" etc.
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My dad actually owned another Legend (an auto) and my brother had a first gen Integra.
Glad to see Honda/Acura getting some of their mojo back recently. Hopefully we’ll see an S2000 successor!
I’m thinking Toyota’s recent offerings may force them back into the sports car game (not to mention the new Z).
Would love to see something compelling from Mazda, too.
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@WilliamsSW TPMS ughh! Certainly serves a purpose, but more expense and trouble than it is worth.
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@glemon It was just such a good chassis. Rode well, handled well, taut, and a very simple but effective dash layout, and comfy seats. Plus plenty of room. Everything you need, nothing you don’t.
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@fintail The “factory” stereos in Hondas at the time weren’t all that great, and in most cases, weren’t actually factory, either.
Honda built the DX and LXs without radios. Period. None of them had factory air, either. All dealer installed - and highly profitable for the dealer.
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@WilliamsSW I think that was the case for many brands, back in the day there was a stereo shop on every corner.
Maybe all of that was in the Honda "keep it simple" mentality (like today there seems to be maybe 3 color combos, 3 option packages, very few additional options). Makes me think of MB in the 60s, where for almost all models AC and radio were also dealer-installed.
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@fintail it was. At the time, 100% of new Hondas did not have factory air conditioning, and probably 98% had no radio. The only exception was the very top trim level Accord (SE-I) and I think some of the higher end Preludes. The 90-93 Accord EX might have had a radio, I forget. No Civic did.
For a given trim, the only options were the exterior color, interior color (mostly prescribed by the exterior) and transmission. That’s it.
The dealer installed everything else. With Honda parts, mostly.
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@WilliamsSW When I was a student in the mid 90s, a good friend had a 92 Accord LX (plastic wheelcovers but body color bumpers and trim etc) sedan, kind of a silver green with beige interior. It was a hand me down from his mom and already had like 150K on it, as she was a long distance commuter and I think it was easier to just give it away than take a bath on a trade in. I recall it had a factory/Honda tape player, and he couldn't wait to put in an aftermarket unit.
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@fintail Yeah, there were three things that Honda didn’t do all that well back then:
- rust prevention
- stereos - they were dealer installed, you could get the 1000, 2000, or 3000, the first two were crappy, the 3000 was way overpriced so no one go it
- brakes- Honda brakes weren’t awful, but they were below the level of the rest of the car.
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@WilliamsSW I am glad I am in the PNW, what's rust?
Those also needed timing belt replacement exactly on schedule, or woe is you. My brother lost a 90 Accord EX via that issue.
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@fintail True, I forgot that one. That applies to almost everything Japanese from that era.