Fog light use
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Kind of curious based on a bit of discord discussion since it seems like some folks really find them annoying and others find useful. I find them super useful to see the road when conditions are crap, and the car already uses them as cornering lamps so I just skip the cycling on/off and leave them on full time along with low beams. My car has them mounted super low so it's hardly bothering anyone and my low beams are kind of weak anyways. both Plus, looks cool with yellow fogs
Ben | observer of rocks | VW Alltrack and many bikes
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Not quite always, but I treat them as elective DRL's, so they are on rather frequently.
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I find that stock fog lights principally just show me that there is fog.
Curator, Kia enthusiast, dad joke specialist
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@spacekraken I use them in the fog because we have DRLs here. But the main annoyance comes from lifted trucks shining them in everyone else's eyes.
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I find them useless. Best used as DRLs.
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@chariotoflove said in Fog light use:
I find that stock fog lights principally just show me that there is fog.
@vincentmalamute said in Fog light use:
I find them useless. Best used as DRLs.
Hmm I wonder how much placement/setup has an impact. With mine, especially swapping to warmer yellow bulbs, makes a nice improvement on seeing lane markings and close range stuff at low speed like squirrels jumping in front of the car. But the fogs on my Niro weren't nearly as useful.
Ben | observer of rocks | VW Alltrack and many bikes
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@cb Ah yes, if your fogs are above waist height they are now just blinding devices. Your car also has LED DRLS that actually are visible unlike mine haha!
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I suspect implementation is everything. Otherwise, it's not easy to explain the diversity of opinions.
Curator, Kia enthusiast, dad joke specialist
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Having them on the Mini, it really does help at night. I don't have rear fogs, which would be useful, but I use them quite a bit.
4Runner has them tied into the headlights as a temporary-permanent fix until I can figure out the current wiring mess in the car.
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@chariotoflove It would make a lot of sense. Out of the modern cars I've driven, the subarus tend to throw a lot more light with the fogs on, same with the VWs, and the Niro was way less useful to use them, but it had a second set of DRLs built into the fog light housings too, oddly enough.
Going off that "second DRL" thing, I find as when riding that having four points of light from a car behind me makes it way easier to judge distance even on sunny days, but that could just be me and my convex bike mirrors.
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@spacekraken i like foglights mostly for how they make the car look.
actual functionality in fog or illuminating close up is entirely secondary
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@spacekraken Every since I did an HID projector retrofit, the fog lights on my car are pretty useless. To the point that, since my fog lamps are glass and I lost an acrylic cover for one side, I just covered them with some coroplast. I'd like to replace them with some Diode Dynamics SS3s eventually.
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Only in fog, and turn off your fucking low beams when you use them you thiccskulled numbnut
sorry, just nobody gets it here in denmark
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@spacekraken People running their fog lights in non-reduced visibility conditions is a peeve of mine. The last thing I need is to be extra blinded as you crest a hill because you thought it looked cool to have the fog lamps on.
No (front) fog lamps on my car, though if I had them I'd on only have them on in fog/rain. I do have a rear fog lamp, but I basically only use that for really think fog (i.e. when I notice I'm having trouble seeing cars in front of me at a reasonable distance).
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@echo51 wait... my car is setup as "fogs only when low beams are already on" and you literally can't run fogs only. High beams kill the fogs though. EU change in light spec I assume?
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On the 4Runner, they make a significant difference. More so than any vehicle I've had before. The stock headlights alone are terrible.
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Properly aimed and set up fog lights (low, wide, and with a hard cutoff) are great, especially in the rain. I don't use them in town generally, despite the fact that I think they look cool, but I really like to use them on the rural roads around my house. It's a heavily wooded area, and all the roads are curvy and have no shoulders. We see deer and coyotes all the time. Fog lights do a good job of lighting up the ditch and picking up reflections from eyes.
(This reminds me: I need to get a set for the Corolla, and maybe for the truck as well)
"The previous owner did that; it's been like that since I bought it."
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I leave my headlights set to auto and my foglights set to on so my fogs come on whenever the car decides to turn on the headlights. It's a Civic, it's not like the fogs are so high up on the car that they're going to blind anyone.
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S10.... Foglights? lol
Chevy colorado ZR2 I put yellow offroad lights on the custom front bumper. I used them once in some 3AM fog with no other vehicles around. It's not much better than the headlights, so I dont use them anymore. It's some cheapo $30 lights on eBay.
I found some 3" DOT approved fog lights I want to buy. Throws out a horizontal beam as not to blind oncoming drivers. -
@facw What kind of cars are blinding you cresting hills? Maybe more people run really bright aftermarkets or something, but I generally find as both a driver and cyclist that fog lights are the least intrusive lights on other cars, barring stuff like lifted 250 class trucks and up.
Ben | observer of rocks | VW Alltrack and many bikes
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In my truck, I find them very helpful for additional illumination on country roads (with no shoulder) at night, but I only use them when beneficial.
I have LED DRLs.
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@spacekraken Any car with with fog lights. It should be obvious that they are going to be shining in your eyes in that situation. I do think I'm probably more light sensitive than normal, but fog lights take an already bad situation and makes it worse by extending the amount of time I'm blinded.
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@facw hmm for sure. I'm really surprised by that, but yeah I may not be as sensitive since I hardly find any lights blinding (during daylight, at least).
Ben | observer of rocks | VW Alltrack and many bikes
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My MR2 has no fog lights and neither does my Camaro, but the latter does have the best DRLs ever, in my opinion:
