I want a Jaguar
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Last evening @ranwhenparked showed us a hideous Jaguar with an after market carriage roof on the market place. When I clicked on the link, I saw a good looking car in my area just below the aforementioned beast. A wagon, an AWD wagon, perfect for New England's winter precipitation.
But this is not one of the usual New England winter weapon wagons. It's classier than a Volvo and far less utilitarian than a Subaru. There is a big chrome kitty on the hood and it's interior filled with imported Sapele wood from Africa and champagne leather trimmed heated seats. Yeah, it's a Jaguar, and a bit of a Ford too.
This 2006 Jaguar X-type Sportwagon really caught my eye last night. It's very clean and low miles too. The price seems to be within reason when factoring this in. I have always liked Jags for their style, this car included.
Please tell me to forget about it and move on, or better yet, tell me why I really need this.
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Jaguar wagon is very Oppo. Do it.
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@onlytwowheels I believe @sm70's brother had one.
Wait, did he not make it to the Hyphen?
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@cb
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@onlytwowheels Just saw one yesterday on I91 going south near Springfield. I was trying to think what is was based on and then it hit me, Mondeo! Or the Contour is what we got here in America. Then I thought, why don't I ever see them on the road? I think it's a nice looking car but I am not sure you want to live with it.
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@cb He took a long break, said goodbye before the shutdown, I think said we ought not expect to see him like before.
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@onlytwowheels I can't tell you that, the interior is far too gorgeous. Even if it breaks down, you'll still have the pleasure of sitting in that while you wait for the tow truck.
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@onlytwowheels Flash looking Ford Mondeo wagon...not sure Ford ever offered them here in AWD. Not even sure Jag did for their version either.
Regardless, you're mad. So go for it!
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@mm54
Yes, very Oppo. I can already picture it in my driveway. I've been doing a bit of research, mostly good reviews, parts seem reasonable, when available.I'm so on the fence because it is a Jaguar, which could become a beautiful disaster. The drivetrain should be near bullet proof, the electrical could be a time bomb if reputations are accurate.
I need to reach out to the seller, and go from there.
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My mom is sorta kinda shopping for a car to replace her 2018 Volvo XC60 because she's convinced herself she needs more cargo capacity. The whole reason she bought the XC60 was because my dad had gotten his own XC60 a few months earlier, because he wanted a big compact crossover with enough towing capacity for their boat, and she decided she ALSO needed this towing capacity.
Anyway, she was convinced she was interested in some kind of Jaguar, that had a long roof and a tailgate, but wasn't any of the names of Jaguar crossovers that I listed to her, or the XF shooting brake. But it had to be Jaguar something.
A few days later I got a text saying the car she was thinking of was a Porsche Panamera.
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This car ticks all the boxes for me. It's a good size, not huge or too small. The power is decent, although fuel economy could be a bit better. I want AWD, and don't want too much of the modern driver assistance or technology packages. Mid level luxury with all the class of the bigger Jags. And a long roof too.
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That's too funny.
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Jeremy Clarkson approves.
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I think these were out of production for at least 5 years before I saw a wagon. They are definitely an attractive vehicle. Plus this is one of the very rare decent Facebook ads with lots of pictures. I think that could be a sign of a decent seller too.
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@onlytwowheels ONE OF US!!
DO IT I HAVE NO REGRETS. Well it has been a LITTLE costly but not bad for a 35 year old notoriously unreliable car. And I LOVE driving it. -
Woah, those are seriously uncommon. I've never seen an X Type wagon in real life. Do it just so you can own one of the rarest cars on Oppo!
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The good news about those is that they were available in Europe with the V6 diesel from Ford/PSA (that was also used on Land Rovers) and the 2.2 from Ford (not the same that was used on the XF which was the 2.2 twin turbo HDi from PSA) so "easy" diesel swaps are a possibility !
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I knew someone that had a pair of Jags, an XJ and XJ-S, both with the V12. It seemed like they were always in need of some repair. From small things like the power antenna stop working to it won't start because the battery is dead again. His hopes were always to restore them both, but one by one they were abandoned. Replaced by VW Vanagons.....
When I purchased my Saab Viggen, I would have people that had never owned a Saab tell me how notoriously unreliable they were. Having grown up in New England and being around friends and family that owned Saabs, I had a better feel for what to expect. Other than routine maintenance items, the only parts required were an ignition casette, a throttle body and a set of wheels because Viggen wheels were soft and bent easily. I loved that car, and I'm hoping to say the same about a Jaguar too.
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@onlytwowheels Very similar to my thoughts. I did a little research so I sorta knew what to expect when I bought the XJ6. Also recently bought a 1998 SAAB convertible. As with both cars, you just have to know what the really important care and feeding items are and keep an eye on them. Both have required maintenance yes but both have been perfectly reliable.
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@onlytwowheels I actually looked at one of these when we were shopping for my wife's wagon. The one I found looked beautiful in a dark blue with tan interior.
Got literally 500m into the test drive and the check engine light came on. Lost power and did some weird shit. Turned around and headed back and then when I went to put the window back up it was making a terrible noise. I passed on that one. The guy was surprised that it was all fucked up. Yeah, sure you were.
The interior was pretty nice. Not a ton of space but competitive with other compact wagons.
(was also cross-shopping E class wagon and outback. She wound up with a 740 wagon and is very pleased)
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My Viggen was a DD, so I put around 50k miles on it in 3 years. Did all the required maintenance myself, with the right parts and on time. It was a very pleasant car, which I wish I still had, but Uncle Sam wanted his money right away so it had to go.
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The last Mustang I owned had a CEL come on right after I went to the bank and transferred the money into the sellers account. I told him not to worry about it, because I own it now, but he insisted we find out what the issue was. We went to an auto parts store and grabbed a code reader. Turns out to be an evap canister purge valve issue. He buys the part for me and I put it in when I got home.......
Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you need to know when to walk away. You made a good choice to pass on that Jag.
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@onlytwowheels The guy had told me he'd just spent 3 grand 'fixing it up' which apparently meant 'I spent 3 grand and they still can't figure it out'
Also the ad said it had P-zeros and when I got there he showed me the new base generic tires he's put on there. New!
The mustang guy sounds like a much more upstanding citizen!
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Three grand of repairs means he let a lot of things go until it was time to sell. Maybe he should have kept the money and dumped the car cheap, listing the issues to potential buyers. The new cheap tires thing is often done at car dealerships too. I hate when I see a great car on the cheapest tires that the seller could find. It speaks volumes.
The Mustang guy was very good for what he did. We had even done a 40+ mile test drive together. It was weird, because he kept telling me to go this way, then over here, giving me the full tour of the town..... until I finally said "We need to get down to business". We agreed on a price right away, so I drove to the bank that we both had an account at and paid him. You know the rest of the story.....
I drove that car for about 2 years and sold it for a very good profit.
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Join the club. Do it!
