New lens day (micro-review/photos)
So as I posted a while back, I bought a refurb from canon 16-35/4L IS lens. Yesterday was the day it arrived!
General impressions so far: Yep, there's a reason this has a red ring on it and that L designation. Stupidly good under the right conditions (as in, not corners at macro range, which naturally a wide lens will struggle with). I'm finding the odd focus miss at 16mm but not beyond that, and it's blisteringly sharp in real world conditions handheld.
I immediately went out to shoot (last dry day in the forecast for 10 days) and while sunset was boring, the after dark photos of the city turned out quite well.
obviously have to include a car shot
As any good wide should, sunstars are super easy to get. Don't need to stop down much either-this was F9.
16mm, f/4, zero effort on my part
hat tip to @CB here
This will probably be the lens that lives on my camera now as a daily driver of sorts. I'll admit that I'm weird in this regard but I don't particularly like standard zooms (think 24-xx or 18-xxx) and haven't used one for about three years out of five years of serious shooting. I usually use a 50mm for casual walkaround/pets/family. For "serious" stuff I usually have a wide on the camera and a tele, these days my favorite lens the 300/4L, in my backpack for detail shots. What that wide lens is has changed a lot though-first a 10-18mm on a 7D, then a 24mm/2.8 on my current 6D, then the 24 and a 14mm/2.8. Plus a friend's nikon rig with a 17-35/2.8. The 16-35 replaces all those practically speaking-the range of 16-24 for super artsy forced perspectives, and 28-35 for more casual normal focal lengths.
f4 is definitely on the slower side but some of my best milky way photos were at F4 on the 24mm so not too worried. And the stabilizer is very nice to have- A sigma 20mm or 24mm f1.4 is definitely under consideration for me in the long term for astro shots, but I like three lenses as a reasonable limit and 16-35/50/300 is a nice set for what I shoot.
Having some fun with selective color and dragging the shutter. 35mm f4, 1/10s
Way too soon for me to make any definite conclusions but if you're a canon FF shooter this seems like the best reasonably priced wide zoom. Hoping to shoot it much, much more. Thanks for reading/looking!
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These are great, first bridge shot is my favorite.
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@cb I still need to do a write up on my 17-55, good thing about having reduced hours at work is that I can wake up ungodly early to take pics of things.
These are great, first bridge shot is my favorite.
spacekraken This concludes this month's lens shopping with S65, him, and myself. Feel free to join the Photography conversation on Discord where we'll convince more people to splurge on camera gear. Within six months one of us is going to have a new body.
Also, love that last shot.
Trilogies are the best. The fact that we all ended up with similar ranges too is just perfect. And thanks! I think it's my favorite of the bunch.
Definitely join us everyone-occasionally we take photos with all this gear!
@ttyymmnn Oh nice! You have a 7D right? I'd seriously suggest a 6D or RP over the 5Dii since they are all the same price, coming from the 7D the 5Dii is gonna be a disappointment. It's crazy how much better the ergonomics are on the 7D/6D and newer.
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@spacekraken I neeed one.
Looking forward to more photos.
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I miss having good lenses. I finally bought back into the DSLR world this summer to catch a flyover, but honestly with the cheap lenses I could afford at the time I haven't managed any enthusiasm about taking more photos with it.
@just-jeepin I know the feeling, I used to shoot sports on a 75-300 III and that was nothing but frustrating.
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I'm on m43 and an ultrawide zoom is on my radar. Not my absolute next move as I have a couple other higher priorities but it's something I'd like to add eventually. There are several options (m43 crop factor is 2x):
Olympus 9-18/4-5.6 - 155 g - $550
Panasonic 7-14/4 - 300 g - $800
Panasonic Leica 8-18/2.8-4 - 315 g - $1000
Olympus 7-14/2.8 Pro - 534 g - $1200
Panasonic Leica 10-25/1.7 - 690 g - $1800
It's kinda crazy to have this many fast aperture ultrawide options for one camera system but they're big and heavy and optically the "cheap" Oly 9-18 can for the most part keep up with the faster lenses in image quality. The Oly 9-18 is wayyyy lighter and collapses down for storage so between the price/size/IQ it's definitely going to be my move.
But...my most imminent move is to sell some old gear I have lying around and pick up a used Oly 12-40/2.8 Pro because that's a $1000ish lens but used examples are $500-600, and I don't have a walkaround zoom I like.
@texturedsoyprotein Weird very biased take: skip the 12-40 and anything else and put the extra towards the 10-25. It seems like a rad piece of glass. I would love a 20-50mm standard zoom on FF, and F1.7 there rocks. In my mind at least, the added 4mm (equivalent) on the wide end is worth a lot more than the 30mm on the long end when it comes to doing creative photography. But like I said, 16-35 (or 50mm prime) is my walkaround zoom now not a 24-something so I definitely skew wide for my preferences or jump all the way to the 300mm.
Also, the value of a clutched focus ring on the 10-25 cannot be overstated. Not as good as USM focus systems for override, but super good still.
. It's crazy how much better the ergonomics are on the 7D/6D and newer.
I was just about to post to your earlier comment that I don't like the 6D ergonomics, and probably wouldn't like the RP either, having looked at a couple photos of it. I really like the larger selector wheel of the older style. I also like that it doesn't do as many things, it's simpler. Maybe I'm just old. And yes, I have a 7D.
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@spacekraken The 10-25 is really cool but not for me. Ultrawide + low light isn't a huge need of mine where the faster apertures is a big draw. The teeny tiny lightweight m43 lenses are a big draw for me though.
The 12-40/2.8 also has a focus clutch. But if I want to do AF+MF like a USM lens, all m43 lenses are focus-by-wire so I can just set the camera to AF+MF mode and the AF is override-able any time.
I'm trying to get closer to the traditional FLs of 24, 35, 50 & 85-90.
Olympus E-M1 II
Olympus 40-150/4-5.6 plastic fantastic kit zoom
I've never been a huge fan of the 14/2.5, I just don't love the 28 equivalent field of view. There is an Olympus 12/2 that's pretty nice but it's $700 and it doesn't do a whole helluva lot more than the 12-40/2.8. There's a Panasonic Leica 12/1.4 but it's $1300. So the 12-40/2.8 gives me a good option for where I spend a lot of my time and I can supplement with select primes where appropriate.
Next after that...
Olympus 45/1.8 - it's small and light, perfect for portraits, and $200 used.
Sigma 16/1.4 - slightly chunky for an m43 lens because it's really an APS-C lens that Sigma slapped an m43 mount on. $420 new, as used examples become available could be cheaper. It's pretty new on the market. But it's the best 35mm equivalent option short of the $1150 Olympus 17/1.2 Pro.
Olympus 9-18/4-5.6 - I'll get there eventually but ultrawide is more for travel for me and I don't do a lot of traveling with covid times upon us, and old-ass cats with a bunch of health problems.
Bonus round - eventually replace my plastic fantastic 40-150 with the Olympus 40-150/2.8 Pro or PanaLeica 50-200/2.8-4, neither of which I'm in a rush to spend >$1000 on.
@s65 Never heard of mpb. Thanks for the tip!
@ttyymmnn Ok then it's worth the $400ish bump to the 5Diii over the ii. Unless you've shot them side by side and find the 5Dii is okay-I found it to be literally no better than the 7D on image quality but the 7D is a lot faster and better controls. Put it this way, the 7D feels like a current camera ten years on, and the 5D feels like a very early digital slr with regard to speed and handling.
The 5Diii would probably be perfect for you then-everything's like the 7D but they tweaked a few things for better UI and I can't say I've found a camera that handles better than it.
@texturedsoyprotein yeah that sounds really solid then!