Well, He Had a Good Run
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Bought a $290,000 home in 1998 with $58,000 down payment, made one $1600 mortgage payment, then lived there completely free for the next 23 years - didn't even have to pay the property taxes. Granted, he's been evicted now, but, still, guy was quite resourceful to last this long. Don't hate the player, hate the game and all that
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I don't know if I should praise him or the fact that the mooch is finally gone... From a tax-payer point of view, he's a parasite upon society, but the rebellious side of me really likes how he screwed the system for so long.
I've seen things that you could not comprehend..without a couple of drinks
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@ranwhenparked good luck ever getting a mortgage or renting again.
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@mr-ontop Oh yeah, I don't sympathize with him, it's ridiculous it was even possible to go on that long, but I grudgingly respect his resourcefulness. Makes you wonder what someone like that could accomplish if they steered their abilities in a more productive direction
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I think this is accurate.
“He’s the poster child for a system that has failed."
“The New York state judicial system is a tragedy of errors that allowed a derelict to leech off of hardworking taxpaying constituents for 23 years,” he said. “The fact that this man could cynically distort the ‘law’ shows how perversely tilted the playing field is in favor of scam artists who reign free and [are] able to commit fraud without consequence.”
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@ranwhenparked As one of Oppos resident brown people, this is awesome. Thanks Guramrit and others. Really helping our cause.
{for the absence of doubt, this is 100% sarcasm. Idiots like this give us a bad name. And by "us" I mean south Asian ethnicities}
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@foghat1981 said in Well, He Had a Good Run:
this is awesome.
Oh, I wouldn't call it awesome. I worry that when the law doesn't work for people, then people stop following the law.
Think of Katz who bought the place for $184,000. By my reckoning he has put down about $60,000 in house payments and taxes for a house that the legal system refuses to evict the occupant. Now Katz played a good sport and followed the rules to finally get him evicted.
But would you have been surprised if he had dropped that $60k to a shadowy figure and our buddy Guramrit Hanspal had his own unfortunate accident?
Civilization is based on people believing that if they play by the rules, others will too. As soon as that breaks down, guys like John Gotti win. That is not awesome.
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@racinbob Sorry - that was pure sarcasm. I appreciate that doesn't come across in online sometimes. I'll edit.
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@foghat1981 Naw, not judging. But your comment leads to the discussion of how we assume that the others will play fair and the consequences when that doesn't happen.
I am sure as long as it was a bank, everybody cheers for the little guy who screws them. That is until they realize that because of guys like this, banks stop giving people the benefit of the doubt.
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@ranwhenparked grumpycatgood.gif
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I have to be honest with you, I had no idea what race he was and when I saw the pic of him in the article, I just saw an American. Personally I thought he was white by looking at the pic. -
@wacko Yeah, my mind didn't really go there either, pretty sure no community has a monopoly on deadbeats
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@wacko I appreciate you have that perspective. I guess I'm a bit hyper aware because every time an Indian/south Asian does something dumb, an early reaction is "great, this is going to reflect poorly". I may be reading too much into things, but it's sort of my own bias/personal experience.
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@foghat1981 If I stopped and thought that every time I read about a white person doing something idiotic, I'd have had a mental breakdown years ago.
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@ranwhenparked Very fair, but that's also the way it goes for minorities/immigrants. [for clarity, I'm first gen of my family born here]. Gotta be on best behavior and not give people a chance to reinforce their stereotypes.
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@ranwhenparked Sure he games the system but this is 23 years of a not very good life.
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@foghat1981 Yeah, I do understand that is unfortunately how it usually works
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@foghat1981 said in Well, He Had a Good Run:
@wacko I appreciate you have that perspective. I guess I'm a bit hyper aware because every time an Indian/south Asian does something dumb, an early reaction is "great, this is going to reflect poorly". I may be reading too much into things, but it's sort of my own bias/personal experience.
I don’t know about general perspectives on Indians, but my stereotypical experience of them in science is of well educated, articulate, and highly motivated people. I just graduated my Ph.D. student who came to me as an oral surgeon from India.
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@mr-ontop Yeah, but he was also a parasite to a much worse parasite, although I’m certain they can just pass their losses off to the taxpayers.
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@chariotoflove Yah, that is the dichotomy. We have positive stereotypes of being hard working and intelligent....but also little more than taxi drivers or convenient store owners. In the more modern world, seen as both job-stealers via call centers and importing IS support.
There's a contingent of people who are anti "foreigners" so any time there's bad behavior, it can become "why do we let these people in?" or similar types of sentiment.
It goes back to what I was taught as a kid and I've tried to impart to my kids as well: you always have 2 strikes against you. You have to work harder and be on better behavior than your white friends/colleagues. Sure, that's probably a bit extreme and doesn't take into account the many wonderful people who aren't racist, but it's reality for minorities. Don't give people an excuse.
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@ranwhenparked this is what happens when someone has no sense of pride.
Comin' in first, never in last
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@hfv said in Well, He Had a Good Run:
this is what happens when someone has no sense of
pridehonor.Something that has been lost is the value of public integrity and honor. If you read about business of the 1800's and early 1900's, you will read of people that went bankrupt who spent the rest of their lives working to pay back the note just because they felt committed to honor their debt.
In our times, that's not a priority. I suppose people feel that is that bank's problem. So why not walk away from your debts if paying becomes inconvenient.
I suppose back then, when a person could not repay their debts, it cost the banker and their depositors directly. And the money lost and could potentially be the ruin of them all. I suppose that's why back then a person's word was his bond and as a result borrower was staking their reputation that they would repay what was borrowed.
Today, reputation is not so much important. This suggests, once reputation doesn't matter, its a slippery slope as to if anything matters.
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