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    Supplying fuel in WW2 aircraft

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    • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
      gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

      "Admittedly, a DB-601’s fuel-injection pump alone had about as many parts as the rest of the engine (the total number was still half that of the Brit’s) and had to be manufactured with the precision of a Leica."

      https://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2002-12/noise-stone-crusher/

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        Cé hé sin @gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

        @gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas
        I seem to remember that Miss Tilling's Orifice was used to cure the cutting out issue with carburettors until pressurised carbs were invented.

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        • MUSASHI66
          MUSASHI66 @gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

          @gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas Great story. I presume the people designing todays high performance German cars are grandchildren of the wwii era engineers - awesome and innovative products, but so complex, and only work well with constant maintenance.

          2022 Toyota Tundra | 2019 FIAT Abarth 500 | 2021 TREK Roscoe 6

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          • GrindIntoSecond
            GrindIntoSecond @gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

            @gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas Also of interest is how Luftwaffe fuel was the 80’s BMW F1 engine fuel.

            Automation finishes: 1.5 wins, 9 top three, 6 middles, 5 basements

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            • WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTInowA4
              WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTInowA4 @GrindIntoSecond last edited by

              @grindintosecond the ultimate driving (people from their homes) machine.

              "What are you gonna do, stab me?"

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              • RacinBob
                RacinBob @gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

                @gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas

                Oh, there are some technical rules of war that need to be remembered.

                1. The one with the most usually wins. Example T34 tank.
                2. Half developed aircraft will kill more pilots than the enemy. Example Wright R3350 Cyclone engines killed more B-29 crew than the Japanese.
                3. The perfect is the enemy of the good; Example what would you rather have, a carbureted Spitfire and Hurricane in 1940 or a fuel injected one in 1942.

                Its an interesting topic, but I think the Me 109 pilots would have gladly swapped planes for the battle of Britain....

                By the way, ever hear of the Messerspit?

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                • bison78
                  bison78 @RacinBob last edited by

                  @racinbob said in Supplying fuel in WW2 aircraft:

                  The one with the most usually wins. Example T34 tank.

                  The US military seems to have forgotten this.

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                  • ttyymmnn
                    ttyymmnn @Cé hé sin last edited by

                    @cé-hé-sin said in Supplying fuel in WW2 aircraft:

                    Miss Tilling's Orifice

                    Tilly Shilling. She was a bad ass. Not only did she invent her orifice, she traveled around and supervised the installation of the device. She was also a motorcycle racer, and refused to marry her husband until he matched her feat of lapping Brooklands at an average speed of 100 mph.

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                    • BaconSandwich
                      BaconSandwich @MUSASHI66 last edited by

                      @musashi66 said in Supplying fuel in WW2 aircraft:

                      German cars are grandchildren of the wwii era engineers - awesome and innovative products, but so complex, and only work well with constant maintenance.

                      I've always assumed the Audi timing chain was the result of bored watch and clock makers.

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                        Cé hé sin @GrindIntoSecond last edited by

                        @grindintosecond
                        Forty years apart? Might be the same engineers....

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                          Cé hé sin @ttyymmnn last edited by

                          @ttyymmnn
                          Yes, I did realise after typing but forgot to edit. . The story about the Gold Star is probably apocryphal but it should be true!
                          There's a pub called after her.

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                          • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
                            gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @GrindIntoSecond last edited by

                            @grindintosecond https://www.jdcpromotions.co.uk/1983-the-super-fuel-year/
                            BASF had a bunch of experience with synthetic fuels but it doesn't seem like they went to file cabinet and followed the recipe.
                            what still seems to a controversy is who and how much 100 octane gas got to the UK
                            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1180896/RAF-fighter-planes-used-super-fast-fuel-U-S-win-Battle-Britain.html
                            https://www.warbirdforum.com/octane.htm

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                            • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
                              gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @RacinBob last edited by

                              @racinbob The mark Felton videos are great.

                              1. "Oh your tiger can take out 4 shermans, ok we'll bring 8"
                              2. see germany shipping tank prototypes to the front.
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                              • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
                                gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @Cé hé sin last edited by

                                @cé-hé-sin yeah it was kind of a band-aid

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                                • Lanciere
                                  Lanciere @gmporschenut also a fan of hondas last edited by

                                  @gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas I really love his videos and he gets access to so many cool planes. He actually got his start years ago as a War Thunder content creator and has expanded from there.

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                                  • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
                                    gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @Lanciere last edited by

                                    @lanciere would explain why he incorporates it into some of his videos.

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                                    • gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
                                      gmporschenut also a fan of hondas @bison78 last edited by

                                      @bison78 yeah russia has more tanks, but the US has twice the air force and those go a lot faster and farther.

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                                      • MUSASHI66
                                        MUSASHI66 @BaconSandwich last edited by

                                        @baconsandwich Just goes to show they are not designed for durability any longer - they are designed to work for the original purchaser, and rarely do those keep them long enough where they to work on an engine out problem.

                                        2022 Toyota Tundra | 2019 FIAT Abarth 500 | 2021 TREK Roscoe 6

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