Phase one of appearance & livability upgrades on my Civic Si is complete
Well well well, now that I'm back walking, I'm making short work of filing down my Civic Si's styling warts, and dealing with certain little usability/livability things. So here's a mini photoshoot to show it off.
Progress so far is...
- 50% ceramic tint
- Chrome window trim wrapped black
- Clear section of taillights (turn signal + reverse lamps) tinted
- DEPO smoked sidemarkers
- Lasfit LED bulbs replaced all the exterior incandescents. The headlights are full LED, but the sidemarkers are incandescent. The taillights have LED running lamps but otherwise are incandescents.
- Tune Shop blue ball seat lug nuts. Honda included polished chrome lug nuts with the stock satin black wheels and that bugged the crap out of me. Tune Shop is an ebay seller of ball seat lug nuts that work with OE Honda wheels, as opposed to tuner style lugs that have conical seats.
- Karoad silicone tag frame which is the only way to make the wacky Maryland tag look right.
For the interior, I got those fun blank button decals y'all already have seen. I also have some CF-look vinyl overlays for the piano black trim by the shifter and on the bottom spoke of the steering wheel. Piano black trim in high touch areas like this is a no-no but I haven't gotten around to sticking these on just yet.
The most labor-intensive (for me) thing was installing an Acuity gas pedal spacer. The stock pedals are nice aluminum pieces with rubber dimples on them, but the gas pedal is placed horribly for heel-toeing. This spacer mounts to the three studs on the firewall that the pedal mounts to, and then you bolt the pedal into one of 3 sets of holes on the spacer that put the pedal in different spots depending on your preference. Shoving my big burly self down by the pedals was...not fun. But now I can heel toe my damn car much better than the stock pedal placement.
I'm not much a fan of the stock wheels. I really don't like the 2017-19 stock wheels, and the design on the 2020 wheels is a step up, but there are too many spokes and the satin finish makes the wheels tend to disappear in photos, shows every bit of dirt, and really holds on to that dirt where the only way to get them properly clean is to hit them with a wheel brush. Most other wheels cooperate with quick spray & wipes of quick detailer or even Simple Green. These, not so much. This annoys me. I'm going to keep them as my winter set, but I'm considering having them refinished gloss black, or down the road I might even get a cheap set of 18x8.5s to replace them along with the 18x9.5s I'm planning to get for summer wheels.
A note on these pics: the 10th gen Civic is a weird looking car. I like it because I can see past the details that Honda flubbed and I've since corrected. But the perspective distortion from wide angle lenses does the car no favors, and basically every phone's primary camera has a wide angle lens. So, 10th gen Civics look kinda awful in pics taken with most people's phones. I decided to bust out my Olympus E-M1 II + Panasonic 25/1.7 lens (this is a 50mm equivalent on m43). It's still not a beautiful car but at least it's not made any weirder looking by a wide angle lens.
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@texturedsoyprotein I'm just impressed we have an M4/3rds shooter on here.
The mods look good, though.
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@cb Thanks, and I've been rolling with m43 since 2013. I've been tempted by other systems with larger sensors since then but the relative affordability of good-enough lenses, and smaller size of those lenses, has kept me on m43. I only have three: Panasonic 14/2.5, Panasonic 25/1.7, and Olympus 40-150/4-5.6 plastic fantastic. This past spring I picked up the E-M1 II body for way cheap used, it has awesome phase detect AF, and the best IBIS in the business. Fuji's IBIS is getting pretty close and Sony's is ok but the size of lenses for those systems is much bigger. Sony has tons of cheap third-party primes now and there are a smaller number trickling in for Fuji, but I'm probably going to keep on rollin with m43 and swap out my 14/2.5 for a used Oly 12-40/2.8 Pro so I can have a walkaround zoom.
Good call on 50% ceramic. I too like non-dark tint that keeps the heat out. Nobody guesses that my Subaru is tinted and I'll never have trouble with the police. But it absolutely makes a difference on hot days while driving without making it hard to see at night.
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18x9.5s on a stockish Civic SI sounds crazy, but I'm used to old civics. You planning on tracking/autocrossing? The updates you did look great btw!
@wrong-wheel-drive This is my second car with 50% tint, did the same on my 335xi before this. I've never liked cars with windows tinted dark enough that the people inside can't be seen from outside the car. That's a surefire way to attract the wrong kind of attention. I think 50% is dark enough that it cleans up the looks but subtle enough to not look like limo tint. As long as cops can look through the windows and see me they're not liable to hassle me about the tint. I did the same philosophy with tinting the clear part of the tails. Sure, that'll limit the light output some, but the LEDs I put in there are so much brighter than stock that there's no way some cop would think they're too dim and consider the tint might not supposed to be there.
@civicwagonengineer 18x9.5 +45 fits perfectly on the 10th gen Civic with a 255/35-18 or 265/35-18 tire. All that's needed to prevent rubbing is to bend a tab in the front fender liner that's near the sidemarkers. A little negative camber like -1.25 and good to go.
It's actually better to go with this crazy wide (for a Civic) wheel, because one of the things Honda did to minimize torque steer on both the Si and Type-R is to run pretty high offset wheels. This keeps the scrub radius low but makes the tire edge way inset from the fender. They're anti-hellaflush. The stock Si wheels are 18x8 +50. You can go with an 18x8.5 +35 or 18x9 +40 to get more flush with the fenders, and many people run 20 or 25mm spacers on the stock wheels, but all of those options increase the scrub radius and thus torque steer, which is overall pretty damn well controlled on the Si and especially so on the Type-R. 18x9.5 +45 with those 255 or 265 tires gives a ton more rubber on the road, sits flush with the fenders, and only minimally changes the scrub radius.
This is an Si lowered on the same Swift Spec-R springs that I'm planning to do, with 18x9.5 +45 wheels & 265/35-18 tires. No camber kits though, and the lack of negative camber on the front end vs the rear bugs me. But I'm planning to do camber kits for sure. This car has the HFP side skirts so the middle of the car hangs a little lower than mine would but you get the idea.
I'm not a big trackdaybro, but once I get the car on some proper tires I'll maybe hit up some kind of trackday or autocross. I don't want to burn up the stock A/S tires because here in DC we don't get much snow, but temps during winter are consistently low enough that it's worth having non-summer tires for at least Dec thru Feb.
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Looks good! If you don't mind me asking, where do you get the trim blacked out? Tint shop? Was it expensive? I don't like the bright trim on either of my cars and have been thinking about getting it blacked out.
@sovande Yes the tint shop wrapped the chrome that runs along the top of the windows in matte black vinyl to match the rest of the matte black window trim. I had wanted to do all the window trim gloss black because I think it's cleaner looking than matte. But they said the matte rubberized trim along the bottom of the windows wasn't a good surface for them to wrap. The JDM and possibly other markets Civic sedan gets gloss black pillar trim, but not around the borders of the windows. I've already tracked down those part numbers and I'd rather have the real gloss trim for that rather than gloss wrap, so eventually I'll at least have the pillars glossy which should flow better with the windows.
I want to say it was a couple hundred bucks to do the chrome delete on top of the cost of the tint. Doing that small part of the taillights was only $40. There are actually pre-cut vinyl chrome delete kits out there because so many people want to cover up the chrome on modern Hondas. They're under $50 but I didn't feel confident in my ability to apply that perfectly myself so I left it to the pros.
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Just a warm up for the mid engine LS1 swap.
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@ps9 L15B7 powah fo lyfe!
Honestly I'm really impressed with this little 1.5T. It's not a rocket when stock but it's got some healthy midrange punch, a lot of tuning potential, and clever reliability engineering.
These Si's typically put down about 190 whp stock and can do 235 with an off the shelf tune, and get up to maybe 245-250 with bolt-ons on top of the tune. Can keep going with a bigger turbo and/or E85 mix but once you go past about 235 whp the stock clutch that's shared with the other less powerful 1.5T Civics is pretty borderline.
On top of that this motor avoids some of the common foibles of modern direct injected turbo engines. The valve cover is a very effective air/oil separator so there's no need to run a catch can, the plastic charge pipes don't spontaneously blow up like BMWs, and things like the high pressure fuel pump and turbo diverter valve are rock solid instead of ticking time bombs.
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It looks great with it deleted and I want to get my Volvo tinted anyways so maybe that is the thing to do. Volvo only blacked out the trim on the Polestars and my car has a bunch of random chrome accents I'd love to cover up.
I like the modifications you have done. Somehow toning down the design elements really has done a good job of making the car look better - I would never known you had made changes without the before pics.