It begins: Robots are taking your job - Burger Flipper edition
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@derp the current inflated wages (if that's even a thing) are irrelevant. Automation in these areas are one-time costs with minimal upkeep, and getting better at a frightening rate. They're cheaper, more efficient, more reliable. @davesaddiction you hit the nail on the head. You'd have to be an idiot to keep employing people if this was available and worked as advertised, especially in these bottom-tier jobs that are generally served by the least reliable parts of the population.
Many people seem to say this riiiiight up until their own careers become threatened... America's attitude toward food and service workers is very poor. At restaurants, owners force the patrons to subsidize their wages with tips, while you make sure they never go over 31.5 hours so that you're not legally required to offer medical, dental, or retirement plans.
People have making the same arguments about increased automation since automation started. Is it really different now?
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AestheticsInMotion last edited by
Oh, I've got no illusions as far as my industry and job catagory goes. It's clear drivers will eventually be phased out, first the long haul point A to point B drivers, eventually the final destination drivers you see in UPS trucks throughout neighborhoods.
I've seen some software that's built solely to replace managers and it's nutty. First it works in tandem with a management team, learning from how they perform, then it will automate job functions one at a time until that manager team has been whittled down to 1/5 of it's size. And the processes it learns are stored each time, for every company that invests into it, so it keeps getting better and better at replacing people in the field.
Part of the reason I'm so hellbent on investing is because I believe in my lifetime there will come a point where jobs become very difficult to come by.
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@fintail I'm not sure if there's a viable solution to big public corporations chasing profits though, without dismantling the global stock market and changing how we view work worldwide.
I think America will reach UBI, but unfortunately I imagine it will trail behind the rest of the developed world as some will spin it as un-American and money-for-nothing.
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as some will spin it as un-American and money-for-nothing.
Heh, well ever since I've been alive 'mericans have looked down upon those on any gov't assistance. Yea, that will definitely be a fight.
without dismantling the global stock market and changing how we view work worldwide.
Hey, if we default then that may come sooner than you think! But seriously, something to change corporate behavior will have to be nothing less than a cataclysmic event. Although who knows if our culture of work will ever return to 2019 levels.
The challenge isn't in the repetitive task, it's in handling the edge cases where something went wrong. Let's say that a rock gets dropped into the mortar during mixing. That rock can easily clog the dispenser, effectively shutting down the brick-laying machine. While the current iteration has a gaggle of tenders who can fix the situation, the next generation which is more autonomous may have an on-call technician instead of an on-site technician. By the time the tech arrives to remove the rock, the mortar has hardened enough to require disassembly and cleaning instead of a simple disconnect with rock removal. Now ponder all of the other things that can go wrong, many of which won't be found until they happen.
What a pointless innovation
Totally agreed. If they had a burger-making robot like this pizza making robot, then we should be worried. Although admittedly, the look on that dudes face is more like, "what... is this shit?"
That pizza is what most of the frozen pizzas look like after they are baked. They aren't great.
@derp What a pointless innovation. If you are going to design a thing that does a single job...don't design it around how a human would do it. I guess the point is that this is the job no one currently wants anymore so...I guess why not robot?
If their goal is to cook burgers, then this robot isn't the best solution. A dedicated linear oven (like a conveyor oven for pizza) would do a better job. If their goal is to replace a short-order chef, then the robotic solution is appropriate. From what I can see here, it has a long way to go. I'd like to see it trying to fry up a couple of fresh eggs.
How about over-easy without breaking the yolks, please.
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@aestheticsinmotion I think eventually there will be pressure from governmental authorities to reform tax enforcement, and corporate lines of thought will be forced to reorganize. It might be in their best interests too, as if things continue, it might not be safe to be an overpaid execudrone and venture out in public. As you hint at, population is increasing faster than the amount of really good jobs, and I think/hope the deluded beliefs of trickle down and that everyone has endless mobility will end.
No doubt you are correct on American UBI, it will be weaker than others, as some out there are incensed that "others" get something for "free" (while they themselves often benefit from parental or public sector largesse).