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    Decopification: Filling some holes (not that kind)

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    • KITT222
      KITT222 last edited by KITT222

      There's a lot of good reasons to buy the most recent Caprice: The 6.0 V8, RWD, big interior... There's also reasons not to, one of them being the holes in the bodywork. Push bars, antennas, wiring, and lights need mounting. Then they need patching once the car's service is through. There's plastic holes to fill, and metal holes to fill. This will discuss filling the latter.

      My front bumper must have had the full wraparound push bar, because there's these big holes in front, and some round ones in the side.

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      This particular car came out of Washington state, which uses these push bars

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      The poor car has worn an ugly rubber face guard most of its life. And without it, these big holes remain. Getting an unspoiled bumper cover is going to be expensive, so that's not really an option at this time. Instead, I should see about filling the holes.

      Here's the dimensions of the holes:

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      Clearly filling these is going to be a challenge. But there are actually options...

      A place called 'Nenno' makes some filler pieces that could cover up these holes no problem

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      My only problem with these is that they cover the hole and might look obvious. I'd cover the round holes with a rubber plug if it wasn't going to look exactly the same when I was done. But, honestly, the round covers might be what I go for (Nenno also has a cover for the spotlight holes, but that's a discussion for filling metal holes).

      Thus, I had an idea... My Vibe has some accessory driving lights in the bumper.

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      I'm a bit of a nerd for good lighting, and I've been impressed with these LED light bars. They're a DOT Driving light pattern, and great for empty country roads. And the same place makes some littler versions...

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      Behold, the Diode Dynamics SSC2 flush-mount light pods. They don't have an SAE beam pattern, but they do have a combo flood/spot pattern. Given that they would only be used in the countryside, I think I can justify that. And some dimensions...

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      Without the flush-mount bezel:

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      The GOOD news is that it appears that they'll fit the rectangular holes' width. The BAD news is that I'll need to embiggen the holes' height. That would only be a problem if I wanted to restore this bumper, but to be honest, I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort. I also don't want to look like a cop, and installing lights in my bumper might have the opposite effect. I'd paint the bezels of the lights white so at a glance it would look complete. Hopefully that would be enough to make it look more 'cool' than 'cop.'

      So, what does Oppo think? Go for the lights and enhance my countryside visibility, or does Oppo know something I don't that might work better? I've also considered furniture filler plugs, but they don't make them in the size I want, and are big and unsightly.

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      Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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      • Vondon302
        Vondon302 @KITT222 last edited by

        @kitt222 I vote for lights.

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        • CobraJoe
          CobraJoe @KITT222 last edited by

          @kitt222 This might be the best solution to not look like a cop:
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          Cut a patch from a junkyard bumper, and zip-tie "stitch" it in place!

          Or another non-cop look you could use:
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          • Smallbear
            Smallbear @KITT222 last edited by

            @kitt222 Light it up.

            Four out of five dentists surveyed recommended playing hockey.

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            • Dr. Zoidberg
              Dr. Zoidberg @KITT222 last edited by

              @kitt222 If the stickers are cheap, buy those now and do a dry set and see how you feel about it. If you don't like what you see, go with the lights or budget for however it is shops patch those holes and a respray.

              I'm not sure about those lights because of the black housing nor do I like to hear you need to embiggen the holes.

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              • KITT222
                KITT222 @Dr. Zoidberg last edited by

                @dr-zoidberg The rectangular patches are $30, round ones just under $20. For some reason I can justify the round but not the rectangular. I have a buddy that can do bodywork (that I'll be calling about the metal holes) but those are already some BIG holes in the plastic.

                I'd paint the housings white so they'd stand out less. I definitely don't want a big, glaring black bezel on my bumper. Making the holes bigger just means I'm committed to the aux lighting more than this particular bumper cover. If I still had some Photoshop to mock things up I feel like it'd make the decision a little easier...

                Oppo decals & more here -> etsy.com/shop/GenVibe
                Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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                • Dr. Zoidberg
                  Dr. Zoidberg @KITT222 last edited by

                  @kitt222 Hmm, those are some relatively expensive stickers alright. Any idea what your buddy would charge just to fix the bumper, or is it beyond patching as you hinted?

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                  • Qaaaaa
                    Qaaaaa @KITT222 last edited by

                    @kitt222 I would take cuts from a junkyard bumper cover with similar curve, then fiberglass or plastic weld the patches in, then paint

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                    • dogisbadob
                      dogisbadob last edited by

                      just use white duct tape πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

                      Most taxis are used cop cars and usually keep the push bars too 😈

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                      • KITT222
                        KITT222 @Dr. Zoidberg last edited by

                        @dr-zoidberg I'd have to ask him. He's used to plastic welding cracked bumpers from crashes, not things with holes missing. @Qaaaaa's suggestion is what I'd do if I have to fill these. I don't know, I also like the idea of the aux lighting. But it's going to be worth talking to him...

                        Oppo decals & more here -> etsy.com/shop/GenVibe
                        Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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                        • WhoIsTheLeader
                          WhoIsTheLeader @KITT222 last edited by

                          @kitt222 The placement would be a little odd but considering there's already a big hole there, it might not be the worst idea. Might look better with agood enough patch in my opinion.

                          Color enthusiast, CitroΓ«n fanatic, and Cruze driver

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                          • dejock
                            dejock @KITT222 last edited by

                            @kitt222 i vote for remounting the push bar, then adding auxiliary fogs πŸ™‚

                            side question: any experience with the diode dynamics ssc1s? im about to pull the trigger on a set of the sae fogs for my 4runner, would love to hear your past experience. is the wiring harness they have worth the extra cost?

                            04 v8 4runner. 94 ford e250 class b (for sale!), and a bunch of pedal bikes

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                            • Bandit
                              Bandit @KITT222 last edited by

                              @kitt222 Keep your eyes out on car-part.com for a junked Caprice with a good bumper cover. Average cost there looks to be sub $200. A new OEM cover is $440 ish which is expensive, but cheaper than I would have expected.

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                              2019 GMC Canyon

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                              • tysmagic
                                tysmagic @Qaaaaa last edited by

                                @qaaaaa said in Decopification: Filling some holes (not that kind):

                                @kitt222 I would take cuts from a junkyard bumper cover with similar curve, then fiberglass or plastic weld the patches in, then paint

                                this is my suggestion as well! Cut and plastic weld in some other white plastic to fill the holes.

                                Imo, the lights are too cop car looking.

                                18 BMW X3 m40i | 09 Audi TT vert | 89 Land Rover 90 RHD | 90 325i vert

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                                • KITT222
                                  KITT222 @dejock last edited by

                                  @dejock I have no experience with the C1s. I was considering getting one, mounting it to a 12V flashlight, and seeing how it was. But based on my SS6s, I'm impressed. I wouldn't expect the same output from 1 chip as 6, but the C1s are neat and should be good as fogs. FWIW, the Pro models are generally the way to go if they'll be mounted high enough and if you want to throw light VERY far. For my 'car' uses, I'd be happy with Sport.

                                  Oppo decals & more here -> etsy.com/shop/GenVibe
                                  Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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                                    ForSweden last edited by

                                    Idea: re-install the pushbar, but paint the push bar in a fun not-police color

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                                    • AkioOhtori
                                      AkioOhtori @KITT222 last edited by

                                      @kitt222 Hmmm for the bumper I'd probably go with the round patches for the outer round holes (they'll look like parking sensors imo) and honestly would see if a front euro plate might cover the rest? A bit overdone but like... easy fix if it'll cover the big rectangular holes. If a euro plate won't, then probably go with a "normal" front plate and the rectangular patch stickers.

                                      But yeah, I'm guessing you could get a new cover sourced and painted for... $700?

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                                      • KITT222
                                        KITT222 @ForSweden last edited by

                                        @forsweden Possibly important to mention: As is the car might only barely fit in my garage if it ever had to. A pushbar would mean I'd never be able to garage it.

                                        Oppo decals & more here -> etsy.com/shop/GenVibe
                                        Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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                                          Dash-Doorhandle-and-Bondo @KITT222 last edited by

                                          @kitt222 there's thised228bff-b8c7-45ef-85bb-522d09f607aa-image.png : and also this:ab31147f-2dc6-40f3-a615-e50c064f83e6-image.png <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0250/7194/products/3m-8115__1_large.jpg?v=1599862237" alt="3M 08115 Panel Bonding Adhesive, 200 mL Cartridge"/> seeing as you have a Caprice there's a 99%chance you're not in Canada so Dominion sure seal products might not be available. the 3M 8115 panel bond adhesive is expensive but I've personally used it to fill hitch receiver sized holes in plastic bumpers. Not what the product was designed for but it's a bloody miracle from heaven. Both products will require some paint and body but done right will leave no evidence. the 3M stuff is more expensive but feathers out nicely. Hope this helps, love your Chevy squad car.

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                                            Dash-Doorhandle-and-Bondo @Dash-Doorhandle-and-Bondo last edited by

                                            @dash-doorhandle-and-bondo sorry the image cropped out the name. It's dominion sure seal bumper repair kit. There is probably an equivalent permatex product.

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                                            • dejock
                                              dejock @KITT222 last edited by

                                              @kitt222 thats really good intel, thanks! not sure how high is "high enough" but im planning to stick them in the front bumper of my lifted 4runner instead of doing a lightbar that would be mostly obscured by my front license plate. looks like the sae fog is equivalent to "pro" at least in price, so i'd imagine they'd be good for my intended use case.

                                              04 v8 4runner. 94 ford e250 class b (for sale!), and a bunch of pedal bikes

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                                              • KITT222
                                                KITT222 @dejock last edited by

                                                @dejock I'd call that "high enough." IIRC there's mounting kits for Toyotas that should make the job easier. Go for it, and post up the results!

                                                Oppo decals & more here -> etsy.com/shop/GenVibe
                                                Blown Vibe | Caprice PPV

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