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    • CarsOfFortLangley
      CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

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      Haynes is to stop publishing print manuals. It's sad because my own manual from 2005 for my truck is never far from hand. It's well used and I almost feel like I should buy a backup copy and keep it in it's plastic wrap until mine is destroyed.

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      Curator
      1986 Dodge D100 & 2021 Jeep Wrangler Willys

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        ForSweden last edited by

        Love to use computers with greasy hands

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        • Just Jeepin'
          Just Jeepin' last edited by

          What will I do without tiny b&w photos with no surrounding visual context??

          On walkabout. Back soonish.

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          • WhoIsTheLeader
            WhoIsTheLeader last edited by

            They'll have to take the book out of their logo. What a sad day. I don't want to get my computer all greasy and I don't want my phone under the car with me.

            Color enthusiast, Citroën fanatic, and Cruze driver

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            • CarsOfFortLangley
              CarsOfFortLangley @ForSweden last edited by

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              Gotta get that garage only chromebook going.

              Curator
              1986 Dodge D100 & 2021 Jeep Wrangler Willys

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              • MisterButtercup
                MisterButtercup last edited by

                Tis a sad day indeed

                Meandering Road
                Dreams of shifting sweet and smooth
                Peacefully I drive

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                  RallyWrench @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                  @carsoffortlangley Nooooo!

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                  • pos_camaro
                    pos_camaro @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by pos_camaro

                    @carsoffortlangley That's a shame. I have other factory and restoration manuals for the Camaro but the one that's all grease stained and missing its cover is the Chilton's. Those type of manuals are just extremely handy and convenient.
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                    2017 X5
                    1971 Camaro

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                    • Tripper
                      Tripper last edited by

                      I even have/have had a couple pages printed and laminated lol. Guess I'll be printing everything before the job now

                      E46 M3 | 1502 Hotrod | 11th Gen Civic Si

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                      • Chariotoflove
                        Chariotoflove @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                        @carsoffortlangley As a confirmed luddite who reveres the printed page, I find this sad. Also, there are plenty of things for which screens are just not the best fit.

                        Curator, Kia enthusiast, dad joke specialist

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                        • Exage03040
                          Exage03040 last edited by

                          Can this year just end FFS!!
                          Every week I gotta pour one out. 😡

                          ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/66761/this-or-that-235

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                          • benn454
                            benn454 @ForSweden last edited by

                            @forsweden And my phone. A generous film of 5-30 on the glass will only improve the experience.

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                            • CarsOfFortLangley
                              CarsOfFortLangley @Exage03040 last edited by

                              @exage03040 Pouring out more than I'm drinking these days

                              Curator
                              1986 Dodge D100 & 2021 Jeep Wrangler Willys

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                              • JeepOfTheseus
                                JeepOfTheseus last edited by

                                “Installation is reverse of removal” dammit, now I have to learn to read backwards

                                Enjoy every sandwich.

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                                • Huzer
                                  Huzer last edited by

                                  I have a stained Haynes manual for the Mustang (a holdover from when I bought it for the Cougar). For the 4Runner, they didn't make one, so I spent the $20 for a 2 day subscription to TIS and downloaded the entire manual (in hundreds of separate PDFs, thanks Toyota!). I still like printed though, so I'd like to print the entire thing out.

                                  1968 Mustang - 2022 Bronco Badlands ManSquatch, 2 dr

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                                  • Skyfire77
                                    Skyfire77 @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                                    @carsoffortlangley I wonder how much of this is less Haynes giving up on books because print is dead, and more because people, by and large, are just not fixing their vehicles anymore.

                                    Wingnut. Aviation geek. Aircraft enthusiast. A plane freak.

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                                    • awesomeaustinv
                                      awesomeaustinv last edited by

                                      I wish I had a Haynes manual for my T-bird. The only manual I have is a digital copy which, despite being installed and paid for, my computer keeps making me jump through hoops to prove I own it every time I try to use it. Digital repair manuals are no fun.

                                      Strangely though, when I first saw this headline, my first thought was "What will I gird my loins with now?"

                                      Different Haynes...

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                                      • Rusty Vandura
                                        Rusty Vandura @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                                        @carsoffortlangley There are times, like when I am sitting in an airport, that I only want a Chromebook.

                                        Master Chief Dingus

                                        The entropy of my garage is always increasing.

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                                        • Rusty Vandura
                                          Rusty Vandura @ForSweden last edited by

                                          @forsweden There are times, like when I'm sitting in an airport, that I only want a chromebook.

                                          Master Chief Dingus

                                          The entropy of my garage is always increasing.

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                                          • Manwich
                                            Manwich @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                                            @carsoffortlangley

                                            No big loss in my view. I've only found these manuals to be semi-useful at best... often leaving out important details.

                                            2008 Honda Fit
                                            A Known Dad, prone to Dad Jokes
                                            Full of Meaty Goodness

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                                            • Rusty Vandura
                                              Rusty Vandura @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                                              @carsoffortlangley I use my friend's AllData account.

                                              Master Chief Dingus

                                              The entropy of my garage is always increasing.

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                                              • Mark Tucker
                                                Mark Tucker last edited by

                                                Oh man, that is sad. Used to be part of my ritual when I boguht a new car: the first weekend, go buy oil, a filter, and a Haynes manual for it.

                                                I have one (along with several other manuals) for the MG, but not for the others. I should probably grab one for each now, while I still can.

                                                "The previous owner did that; it's been like that since I bought it."

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                                                • mocamino
                                                  mocamino last edited by

                                                  That stinks. We all know both Haynes and Chilton's have their weaknesses. I've been known to buy a manual from both for a car since where one manual is weak, the other might have more detail. Losing an option is no good.

                                                  "Use the online option" you say. Well the online option is $35 a month or $399 a year. Sure, that gives you access to ALL of their manuals. That's great for a professional garage, not so much for the DIY crowd. What I don't know is what the online access gives you, and whether you can cancel after a month. If it lets me download what I need to PDF and I can cancel after a month with no penalty...honestly they're gonna lose money on me. Download a bunch of manuals in a month, then cancel? That's cheaper than $25 per book. 👿

                                                  79 El Camino, 01 Toyota Echo, 2000 Suzuki Grand Vitara, 1965 Play-Mor 140

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                                                    ibRAD @Huzer last edited by

                                                    @huzer said in End of an Era:

                                                    I have a stained Haynes manual for the Mustang (a holdover from when I bought it for the Cougar). For the 4Runner, they didn't make one, so I spent the $20 for a 2 day subscription to TIS and downloaded the entire manual (in hundreds of separate PDFs, thanks Toyota!). I still like printed though, so I'd like to print the entire thing out.

                                                    Not sure what it's like for the 5th gen, but there are plenty of 3rd gen manuals floating around the internet.

                                                    I actually bought a set of two manuals from someone once that had printed out and bound them fairly nicely actually. It was for '02 though so all of the manual transmission stuff is missing unfortunately. Otherwise they are convenient to have around.

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                                                      ibRAD @CarsOfFortLangley last edited by

                                                      @carsoffortlangley said in End of an Era:

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                                                      Gotta get that garage only chromebook going.

                                                      "today's more complex vehicles"

                                                      How long did it take you to find your ratchet?

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