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    Oppostocks Poll... which BEV startup do you think will die first?

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    • Manwich
      Manwich last edited by

      So on the last update for our Oppostocks game, I was in last place.

      But since that time, things have turned around... and now I'm in first place!
      https://www.marketwatch.com/game/opposite-stocks2021/rankings

      And I did that by changing strategies... instead of making bets on things that might go up, I decided to start betting on things going down.

      And of course the long picks others made that went down also affected the rankings.

      And my #1 shorting pick that turned my ranking around is Nikola. And I recently made another short pick... Lordstown Motors. I find a good strategy is to short them on 'up' day... because the overall trend for these is down. And without any real revenues (let alone earnings), I think it's more likely things will go from bad to worse and then to insolvency at some point for these two.

      And that leads me to thinking about a poll... which of these companies do you think will die first? I set the poll so you get 5 votes... you can dump them all on one company... or spread it out among one or two or more that you think are just more likely to die.

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      • Manwich
        Manwich @Manwich last edited by

        @manwich

        And for the poll, the names of the companies are:

        FFIE-Faraday future
        GOEV - CANOO
        LCID - LUCID
        NIO - NIO INC
        NKLA - NIKOLA
        RIDE - LORDSTOWN MOTORS

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        • Snakesm13
          Snakesm13 @Manwich last edited by

          @manwich so just coincidence the day I drop from 1st you post about the Oppostocks game? 😁

          I really blew it with the HOOD bet.

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          • RallyDarkstrike
            RallyDarkstrike @Manwich last edited by RallyDarkstrike

            @manwich I'd also say Lordstown or Nikola!

            I'd say at this point Faraday, Lucid and Nio seem pretty legit....Lucid especially...

            They don't have stock, but I really hope Nobe doesn't become vapourware...I love that thing!
            http://mynobe.com/

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            • Manwich
              Manwich @Snakesm13 last edited by

              @snakesm13 said in Oppostocks Poll... which BEV startup do you think will die first?:

              so just coincidence the day I drop from 1st you post about the Oppostocks game?

              Total coincidence. I just happened to look... and there I was in 1st place,
              😉

              And I have to say that HOOD definitely looked like a good pick. I would have guessed that it would do well. I just checked their financials, and they are growing nicely
              https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/hood/financials/income/quarter

              But in the most recent quarter, they got hit with a $1.49 Billion 'other operating expense'.

              Do you know what that was?

              I also noticed they have a ton of debt.

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              • dogisbadob
                dogisbadob last edited by

                Lordstown was mainly just a prop for GM and [politics redacted] and wasn't actually intended as a serious effort, so that is my answer

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                • Rusty Vandura
                  Rusty Vandura @Manwich last edited by

                  @manwich Does my vote count if I never heard of any of them?

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                  • facw
                    facw @dogisbadob last edited by

                    @dogisbadob On the other hand, Nikola appears to just be an actual prop.

                    Which one will burn through their cash on hand first? Because it seems both will have difficulty raising any more funds.

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                    • dieseldub
                      dieseldub @Manwich last edited by

                      @manwich That's a tough one. Especially between RIDE and Faraday. Both are seemingly near DOA as it is. I might give the nod to RIDE as the first one to go, though.

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                      • Manwich
                        Manwich @Rusty Vandura last edited by

                        @rusty-vandura said in Oppostocks Poll... which BEV startup do you think will die first?:

                        @manwich Does my vote count if I never heard of any of them?

                        Well technically, you've heard of them now...

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                        • facw
                          facw @dieseldub last edited by

                          @dieseldub I didn't want to go Faraday because they've seemingly been dead for years, it seems plausible they'll be able to keep shambling on a while longer. Also because I think their car is cool (I'm not sure how much having an actual driving prototype helps them at this point when it's already four years old. Even if their IPO plan or whatever goes through, it seems like it would be pretty obsolete by the time they could bring it to market.

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                          • orneryduck
                            orneryduck last edited by

                            All of the above?

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