Today's bike commute sucked
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Got up all early to take the long way and ride through the woods, and not even halfway there I ran over an inch and a half long screw and killed my tube and tire. had to walk it home. Ruined my morning. Didn't even make it a mile.
2006 Accord K24A8/5AT (rip)
2018 Civic Si 6MT
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2006 Accord K24A8/5AT (rip)
2018 Civic Si 6MT
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@s65 RIP. Also, forgot to mention earlier but Schwalbe sells some truly unkillable tires in 26 inch, might be good for your riding. I have a set on the Rad.
Edit: yep the ones you just linked! I would go for the Marathon Plus though. Even more toughness
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@s65 You can go Marathons, just remember they are heavy and stiff, so your ride quality and handling will suffer for it.
I've been running Bontrager H5s on my 26" Cannondale MTB for the past decade to great effect.
If you go with the Marathons, I highly suggest sticking to 2-inch width. Lower pressures make for a far cushier ride.
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@s65 Sounds like your plans got screwed.
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@s65 Boot the puncture, throw in a new tube and go with it?
Looks like you got lucky not to have it screw up the inside of the wheel.
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The same thing happened to me today, and I learned my bike's under-seat tool kit does not have a 15mm wrench for the rear axle.
Fortunately the local busses have bike racks!
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@forsweden said in Today's bike commute sucked:
The same thing happened to me today, and I learned my bike's under-seat tool kit does not have a 15mm wrench for the rear axle.
Fortunately the local busses have bike racks!
Get ye a quick release at once!
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If most of your riding is on pavement, a nice set of slicks will make a big difference. I’ve used both Kenda and Specialized and both have been fine.
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@spacekraken said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@forsweden said in Today's bike commute sucked:
The same thing happened to me today, and I learned my bike's under-seat tool kit does not have a 15mm wrench for the rear axle.
Fortunately the local busses have bike racks!
Get ye a quick release at once!
Quick release = wheel yeet.
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I have been running continental gatorskins on my road for 5 or 6 years with 1 flat. I don’t ride much now but there is 2-3000kms on these bad boys.
They make other trail tires for cross duty, and WTB has some as well but not sure on 26inch.
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@someoneatacura said in [Today's bike commute sucked](/post/295693
Quick release = wheel yeet.
That fear is overblown. I’ve been riding bikes since the ‘70s and have never lost a wheel due to a quick release. There were a few high-profile cases back in the day where people didn’t properly tighten axle nuts and lost their front wheels. Note it was about nuts, not quick releases. Those led to axle retention clips and “lawyer lips” on front forks.
The more recent debacle with Trek and Shimano had more to do with a poorly designed quick release lever being used to hold wheels using disc brakes. I remember one engineer going on a rant about the placement of the caliper being completely wrong for the forces involved. He advocated for moving the caliper to the front of the fork so braking forces would push the axle into the fork instead of out. It’s clear that the design didn’t catch on. Instead, they changed to through-axle design. That’s great for bikes where it’s expected that the front wheel is going to be off the ground and experience tons of force from jumping and whatnot. It’s overkill for a road bike and makes things like tire repairs a lot more difficult than they need to be.
Never discount the possibility that you might live through it.
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@someoneatacura said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@spacekraken said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@forsweden said in Today's bike commute sucked:
The same thing happened to me today, and I learned my bike's under-seat tool kit does not have a 15mm wrench for the rear axle.
Fortunately the local busses have bike racks!
Get ye a quick release at once!
Quick release = wheel yeet.
Fair... I have a pair of cables so both wheels get locked to the frame which then gets locked to whatever I'm locking the bike to.
@BicycleBuck I always wonder about that disk brake fear since I have two bikes with QRs and disks. Then again, my uncle's FS bike runs hydro disks and QRs and he's done 10+ endurance races through the rockies with no problem...
Ben | observer of rocks | VW Alltrack and many bikes
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I just realized that “yeet” in this context means stolen, not falling off or being thrown. Dang kids and their fancy new words!
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@forsweden said in Today's bike commute sucked:
The same thing happened to me today, and I learned my bike's under-seat tool kit does not have a 15mm wrench for the rear axle.
Fortunately the local busses have bike racks!
That's a good tip - practice your emergency procedures before you need to. Which reminds me I should try out the spare tire lowering mechanism on my new to me Sienna before I get a flat.
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@bicyclebuck said in Today's bike commute sucked:
He advocated for moving the caliper to the front of the fork so braking forces would push the axle into the fork instead of out. It’s clear that the design didn’t catch on.
Aesthetics are the primary reason for that. And like you say, most people properly using QRs never have problems.
Instead, they changed to through-axle design. That’s great for bikes where it’s expected that the front wheel is going to be off the ground and experience tons of force from jumping and whatnot. It’s overkill for a road bike and makes things like tire repairs a lot more difficult than they need to be.
I've found the through-axles almost as easy and as fast as QRs to use.
It's not overkill for road bikes using disc brakes which is where the through-axles are specced. Similar to how my rim brake Stumpjumper used radial spoking on the front wheel. Radial spoking went away with disc brakes.
...meh...
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@s65 Ouch! That can be one advantage of tubeless. I picked up a 1.5" brad nail on my road bike and aside from the clicking noise it made hitting the asphalt, I never would've known it was there. No air leak at all.
As @BicycleBuck noted, if you aren't doing serious mountain biking, more road oriented tires makes life easier. Since you ride dirt, my Canyon Grail came with these Schwalbe G-One gravel tires:
I was amazed at the dirt traction, getting me up a pretty steep mountain bike trail. And much less rolling resistance on asphalt.
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@cb said in Today's bike commute sucked:
Sounds like your plans got screwed.
ouch!
In all seriousness though, get yourself some good tubeless computable rubber and rims and never* worry about flats again.
In this case, 'never' means 'almost never' as you'll never NOT have dumb shit happen on occasion.
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@spacekraken It's a e-bike with internal hub. I need that heavy thing to stay put.
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@vincentmalamute said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@bicyclebuck said in Today's bike commute sucked:
He advocated for moving the caliper to the front of the fork so braking forces would push the axle into the fork instead of out. It’s clear that the design didn’t catch on.
Aesthetics are the primary reason for that. And like you say, most people properly using QRs never have problems.
Instead, they changed to through-axle design. That’s great for bikes where it’s expected that the front wheel is going to be off the ground and experience tons of force from jumping and whatnot. It’s overkill for a road bike and makes things like tire repairs a lot more difficult than they need to be.
I've found the through-axles almost as easy and as fast as QRs to use.
It's not overkill for road bikes using disc brakes which is where the through-axles are specced. Similar to how my rim brake Stumpjumper used radial spoking on the front wheel. Radial spoking went away with disc brakes.
I’ve been on the fringes for quite a while, but I would suspect that the only reason for through axles on road bikes is to save cost. One axle design for road, gravel, touring, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same spec on MTB (I don’t know because I haven’t looked).
Radial lacing was a dumb idea. The weight savings were minimal and what weight remained was redistributed to the rim where it would create greater rotating mass. As a big guy, I always had trouble keeping wheels true, even laced with 36 spokes. Low spoke counts just seemed liked a temptation to fate.
Never discount the possibility that you might live through it.
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@bicyclebuck said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@vincentmalamute said in Today's bike commute sucked:
@bicyclebuck said in Today's bike commute sucked:
He advocated for moving the caliper to the front of the fork so braking forces would push the axle into the fork instead of out. It’s clear that the design didn’t catch on.
Aesthetics are the primary reason for that. And like you say, most people properly using QRs never have problems.
Instead, they changed to through-axle design. That’s great for bikes where it’s expected that the front wheel is going to be off the ground and experience tons of force from jumping and whatnot. It’s overkill for a road bike and makes things like tire repairs a lot more difficult than they need to be.
I've found the through-axles almost as easy and as fast as QRs to use.
It's not overkill for road bikes using disc brakes which is where the through-axles are specced. Similar to how my rim brake Stumpjumper used radial spoking on the front wheel. Radial spoking went away with disc brakes.
I’ve been on the fringes for quite a while, but I would suspect that the only reason for through axles on road bikes is to save cost. One axle design for road, gravel, touring, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same spec on MTB (I don’t know because I haven’t looked).
Through axles came from the mountain bike world and arose from the need for more stiffness with disc brakes and especially the suspension forks. So it's the road bikes that use discs that have through axles. If you looked to buy a new wheelset currently, you'll see the rim brake wheels are QR and disc brake wheels are TA.
Radial lacing was a dumb idea. The weight savings were minimal and what weight remained was redistributed to the rim where it would create greater rotating mass. As a big guy, I always had trouble keeping wheels true, even laced with 36 spokes. Low spoke counts just seemed liked a temptation to fate.
Radial lacing works fine for me at 150 lbs. The current wheels have advanced tremendously compared to the wheels from the 70's and 80's which is what I'm used to. Rims are so much stronger. I'm currently looking at a new wheelset using 21 (!) spokes in the front wheel. Despite what I said about through axles and torque induced by disc brakes, this wheel set uses radial spoking on the front wheel! Albeit it uses 2x on the disc side.
oh, and the big advantage to radial spoking - see my comment about aesthetics as the main reason for not mounting front brakes in a sensible engineering position.
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@forsweden Oh haha, my ebike is set up the same way. But also, Marathon e-Plus tires and self sealing tubes for good measure
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