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    Unsurprising, but still somewhat disappointing...

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    • Skyfire77
      Skyfire77 last edited by

      As a result of a series of explosions and fires in July of this year (Christ, was that only in July? Seems like forever ago...), the US Navy has decided to scrap the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) rather than repair it.

      alt textUSS Bonhomme Richard on fire, July 12th, 2020

      alt textSome of the fire damage inside the ship

      63 sailors and civilian firefighters were injured in the initial explosion and the subsequent firefighting efforts, and to date no official finding on the cause have been announced, though arson is a possibility. The Navy is hoping to use the lessons learned from the experience in improving plans and fire fighting equipment for future ships

      The Navy assessed that it would have cost between $2.5 and $3.2 billion to restore Bonhomme Richard to its pre-fire configuration, a process that was estimated to take between five and seven years to complete in a Gulf Coast shipyard. A less costly repair option that would have resulted in the vessel being reconfigured as a hospital ship or submarine tender would still have likely cost more than a billion dollars and taken five to seven years to complete, a greater expenditure of time and resources than buying an all-new ship for either of these roles.

      Scraping the ship is expected to cost around $30 million, and though the Navy is salvaging what it can from the wreck, a full breaking and recycling can't happen until the investigations are complete.

      The loss reduces the Navy fleet of Wasp-class 'Phibs to 7, with 2 additional America (LHA)-class in service, plus a third, USS Bougainville, expected to be launched in 2024. Ingals Shipbuilding received a contract in May of this year for the as-yet unnamed LHA-9, though that would not be expected until 2025-2030.

      Wingnut. Aviation geek. Aircraft enthusiast. A plane freak.

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      • ttyymmnn
        ttyymmnn last edited by

        Not surprising at all. A shame to lose a good ship but it was done for.

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        • CB
          CB last edited by

          So when’s it going on Copart?

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          • ranwhenparked
            ranwhenparked @Skyfire77 last edited by

            @skyfire77 Given the extent of the damage, not surprising at all. $3.2 billion and 7 years to fully repair, $1 billion and a similar time frame to convert to another use, and you know those are optimistic estimates - with any government contracts, tack on another few billion and another few years. And it only took 3 years and $1.2 billion (inflation adjusted) to build in the first place, and was already over halfway through its designed useful lifespan.

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            • Exage03040
              Exage03040 last edited by Exage03040

              Yeah, she got warped pretty good. It raged on long enough that I pegged it as overcooked and finished.
              Refit is just the worst for shit like this. I had some reply post on Kinja about why vessels tend to light off: Hot work, critical systems disabled, dealing with reduced crew, crew that doesn't want to work, and contractors that don't give a toss about clean working spaces or the vessel in general.

              ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/66234/this-or-that-234

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              • BaconSandwich
                BaconSandwich @CB last edited by

                @cb said in Unsurprising, but still somewhat disappointing...:

                So when’s it going on Copart?

                That honestly made me laugh out loud.

                I wonder how long it'd take if you had a small army of people with cutting torches, to completely hack it up into little bits, rather than hauling it to some other ship breaking yard.

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                • ttyymmnn
                  ttyymmnn @Exage03040 last edited by

                  @exage03040 I spent a summer working for a temporary employment service and one of the jobs we had the hardest time filling was fire watch at the shipyard. It's a critical gig, but it sounds like it's just mind crushingly boring.

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                  • Exage03040
                    Exage03040 @ttyymmnn last edited by

                    @ttyymmnn

                    Well it more or less is.
                    Usually your just a hand helping the welder (or whom ever is doing hot work), can't look at him welding, have to smell the fumes. And then usually they want you to stick around for at least 30min (whatever the safety reg is) after completion by yourself to make sure nothing is smouldering and lights off.

                    I work engineering and it's the most stressful time onboard outside of an actual emergency. The Chief is freaking out everyday because there's always BS going on, changing his plans or delaying. The watch keeper [EOW] is basically juggling work with people trying to interrupt all the time while trying to supervise the vessel being safe (which it won't be).

                    I've seen almost everything; welding fire in the fiddly, various injury some rather serious, 600VAC electrocution, tank entry asphyxiation. They had one yard worker fall off the work boat a few months ago and pass away.

                    ToT: https://opposite-lock.com/topic/66234/this-or-that-234

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                    • ?
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Wow i never even heard about it what with all the idiots yelling at eachother about which way they want to run our lives.

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                      • ttyymmnn
                        ttyymmnn @Exage03040 last edited by

                        @exage03040 I've seen videos of guys cleaning tanks. No thanks. Or should I say, no tanks.

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                        • Chariotoflove
                          Chariotoflove @Skyfire77 last edited by

                          @skyfire77 I'm surprised it isn't being sold to an Italian firm for Mediterranean cruises or something. That just means I've been reading ranwhenparked's posts too much.

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                          • zipfuel
                            zipfuel last edited by

                            Wonder how stripping and sinking it as an artificial reef would work out cost wise vs cutting it up

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                            • Chariotoflove
                              Chariotoflove @zipfuel last edited by

                              @zipfuel said in Unsurprising, but still somewhat disappointing...:

                              Wonder how stripping and sinking it as an artificial reef would work out cost wise vs cutting it up

                              That is a great idea. They would have to be able to tow it to the needed location.

                              Curator, Kia enthusiast, dad joke specialist

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                              • Skyfire77
                                Skyfire77 @zipfuel last edited by

                                @zipfuel Getting it safe to sink probably would have been more than the Navy was willing to eat.

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                                • 6MT_FTW
                                  6MT_FTW @BaconSandwich last edited by

                                  @baconsandwich That reminds me of the scrapping of a large aircraft tug at the airport I used to work at. The mechanics spent their evenings cutting it apart and recycling the scrap metal. It was probably worth it since those things are positively loaded with ballast; I think the minimum weight for one for a full widebody is over 40,000 lbs, and I'm sure that this weighed more than that.TUG-GT110-747-e1570582449804.jpg

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                                  • BaconSandwich
                                    BaconSandwich @6MT_FTW last edited by

                                    @6mt_ftw I'm reminded of ants carrying something big to their nest, then tearing it apart to fit it down the hole.

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                                    • pip bip
                                      pip bip @Skyfire77 last edited by

                                      @skyfire77 clearly a decent blaze if they're scrapping it

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                                      • Skyfire77
                                        Skyfire77 last edited by

                                        @pip-bip Apparently it burned hot enough, long enough to warp the flight deck and island, plus do heavy damage to the hangar deck. It literally will be cheaper to buy a new one than try and rebuild.

                                        Wingnut. Aviation geek. Aircraft enthusiast. A plane freak.

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                                        • Skyfire77
                                          Skyfire77 @pip bip last edited by

                                          @pip-bip Apparently it burned hot enough, long enough to warp the flight deck and island, plus do heavy damage to the hangar deck. It literally will be cheaper to buy a new one than try and rebuild.

                                          Wingnut. Aviation geek. Aircraft enthusiast. A plane freak.

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