President Elect Biden Pre-Fires Emily Murphy of the GSA
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According to well placed sources on the Biden transition team, President Elect Joe Biden said, "That bee-eye Emily Murphy better find her final paycheck on her chair come January 21st or I'll go down there and fire her ass myself." Vice President Elect Kamala Harris was then heard to say, "I got this, Mr. President. Ooh: did you like the sound of that? Mr. President?"
But seriously, here's the nice note that Mrs. Murphy sent to Mr. Biden, pasted from the Washington Post:
In a one-page letter to Biden, the head of the General Services Administration addressed head on the controversy that engulfed the country over her failure to release more than $6 million in taxpayer-funded transition funding and crucial access for his team to federal agencies. She used unusually personal language to describe the predicament she faced as Trump has failed to concede the election and declared fraud in the results in battleground states, writing that she has “always strived to do what is right.”
“Please know that I came to my decision independently, based on the law and available facts,” she wrote. “I was never directly or indirectly pressured by any Executive Branch official—including those who work at the White House or GSA—with regard to the substance or timing of my decision.”
Murphy said she did not receive “any direction to delay my determination” — but did receive threats online, by phone, and by mail directed at my safety, my family, my staff, and even my pets in an effort to coerce me into making this determination prematurely.”
“Even in the face of thousands of threats, I always remained committed to upholding the law,” the letter said.
A Republican appointed by Trump in 2017, Murphy lamented vagueness in a law called the President Transition Act of 1963, which was supposed to guide her to making a declaration of the winner.
“Unfortunately, the statute provides no procedures or standards for this process, so I looked to precedent from prior elections involving legal challenges and incomplete counts,” Murphy wrote. “GSA does not dictate the outcome of legal disputes and recounts, nor does it determine whether such proceedings are reasonable or justified.”
And she said bluntly that she regretted that GSA, “an agency charged with improving federal procurement and property management should place itself above the constitutionally-based election process. I strongly urge Congress to consider amendments to the Act.
@rusty-vandura She totally was influenced by the Trump administration. Her writing that was totally insulting to anyone that has a brain. Hopefully, now we can finally move on.
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@krustywantout No insult, then, to folks whose brains have been eaten by zombies.
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Hey, just because people blindly and slavishly follow a literal death cult headed by a glorified conman who embodies the seven deadly sins doesn't mean they are brainless or have become zombies. They just want to Make America Great Again!
@fintail I think there are genuine people that don't like Trump but don't like the Democratic agenda even more. I think the violent protests, Seattle abandoning an entire block, and the fact that Pelosi is a huge hypocrite didn't help the party. Also, a lot of people (including minorities) don't feel the Democratic party leaders are sincere in their efforts to help them. If you want to have the time, this podcast is a great listen to understand where some of the Trump base is coming from.
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Fire from the GSA you say...
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@krustywantout Interesting listen, thanks - I agree with it. I completely understand 45's appeal 4 years ago, but I can't see the logic in loving him today. I get the economic anxiety and class divisions (the loss of mobility since trickle down lies is showing itself in so many fun ways), but the man and his visions are so cringeworthy, if not flawed or even appalling, that it can be mind-boggling. The mental gymnastics of some supporters also amuses me. They hate the coastal elites, but love a born-rich property developer from Manhattan who has never worked a real day in his life. They preach about supposed morals and laws, but love a serial adulterer, hoo-haw grabber, and pathological liar who almost certainly has a litany of financial crimes under his belt - and I won't even get to the racist dog-whistles, and worse. These people aren't stupid, they are somehow able to justify it, I suspect by cutting off their nose to spite their face (the libs).
The establishment Dems are in large part crap, don't get me wrong. More centrist corporatist dorks who promise change and result in virtually none, pander to the same old powers that be, and via their own incompetence just beg the so-called right to gain ground. People are correct to doubt their sincerity via supposed leaders like Pelosi who make a scene but accomplish nothing. The US doesn't have a true left with real power - there's the centrist D majority, and the Rs, who on a good day can be center-right, and on bad days a sad parody of fascist populism. It's all about the lesser evil, and it has been for a long time. To steal an idea, douchebag or turd sandwich.
I don't buy the law and order stuff though. Those who fear what they call "anarchy" are also afraid of "socialism", all wound up while they ignore their own declining quality of life. The protests of the past 6 months are virtually nothing compared to the past - a lot more happened when America was "great" ( and if people would react to what they've really lost in the past 40 years, there'd be a lot more than a few smashed storefronts and burnt cars). Seattle's little experiment (up until about 2 months ago I lived under 10 miles from CHAZ/CHOP) was exaggerated by the media who wanted clicks and views (and who are usually complicit with the continual failure to reform the praetorian sector) - it was a glorified tourist attraction by day, and if you visited today you'd think nothing happened - real estate there remains some of the most competitive and expensive in the country. If there was a real issue in Seattle or in adjacent areas which also saw looting and vandalism, people would vote with their feet and the market would collapse. I see all of that as a distraction from the broken system of policing in the USA, which harms the people and police both. In my opinion, riots and related messes are far down on the list of important issues at the moment. Fix economic and policing problems, watch the riots disappear.
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@fintail Amen. I know I'm preaching to the choir with you here, but can echo the same about all the fuss about Portland being on fire this year, as a resident of the city. The level of exaggeration it received is ridiculous. Yes, if you happened to be within a very specific 2 block downtown radius past midnight you may very well have been caught up in something resembling warfare. But for the rest of this sprawling city life went on as usual, there was no burning witnessed, or fear to live our lives. And for every finger you point at antifa or any other band of troublemakers there are plenty more to point at the authorities' tactics, excessive use of tear gas, attacks on peaceful protestors in the name of defending against attackers (there is a difference, and the onus is on representatives of our government to distinguish between them, no matter how hard that may be) and right wing militia groups descending on this city who were somehow being propped up as saviors at the same time?
Also let's not forget - our very own president repeatedly touted how he could easily "solve" our problem here in Portland - and that he would have it taken care of in 30 minutes. This is a not so vague suggestion at what that would entail - sending federal troops and allowing them to exert unprecedented levels of force on American citizens (and that's such a short sighted joke if anyone thinks this will actually solve anything in the long run). If as a supposed patriot one actually supports such tough talk (of course it's just talk from that fat, sad, weak man) and what it implies, I fear for their vision for this country (and of course that's nothing new - it's just somewhat rare to see it laid bare in such terms).
@zhp-sparky-the-5th The for-profit media used what was realistically minor disobedience to gain some viewers and get people riled up - did a big favor to the self-proclaimed right who preach about the law and order while they don't exactly live it, themselves. Grossly exaggerated in Seattle too, and of course little mention of the insecure proud boys types who traipsed in from outlying areas to stir up shit and pose with their manhood-compensators. Seattle had some traffic-disrupting marches and low grade violence, it wasn't exactly Watts or Detroit in 1965. It might have been rougher at night, but in Seattle anyway, it wasn't the safest neighborhood before the sit-in. If society wants to avoid this stuff, it needs to seriously address the faults of the broken American justice system, everything from enforcement to punishment to LEO accountability, along with addressing the economic devolution of the past generation or two.
This is exactly what I would expect the 21st century Rs to focus on, while at the same time spearheading a laughably negligent pandemic response, and while some areas of the US have the worst poverty and human development indices in the first world. Distraction, deflection, they are masters. 45 can solve this issue as skillfully as his regime dealt with covid - blunders and idiocy everywhere.
Regarding abusive and unwanted federal troops being sent in by a wannabe-dictator president, we both know millions of people out there would welcome to lick the boots of a strongman - 45 included, by his kind words for similar types more than once. It's a dark side of what has become of American conservatism. This isn't the party of Ike anymore.
@fintail I agree with everything you said. I've made these arguments to my R friends but they are so brainwashed by the rhetoric that they can't be objective. I also respect that they have a right to their opinions and try to find common ground when it's available. I also think that the Ds and the media bait and antagonize Rs and vice versa to create these heated situations where both sides lose focus on their political agenda creating hypocritical events. Both sides are also cowards when it comes to condemning socially detrimental events in our society that are not politically beneficial. Let's hope the new administration can figure out a way to lower the temperature of the country.
CobraJoe last edited by CobraJoe
I completely understand 45's appeal 4 years ago, but I can't see the logic in loving him today.
I read this yesterday, and I spent way too much time thinking about it, but I do have a theory:
Some people crave the certainty of a controlling leader.
It might not be the best trait for a person to have, but it is completely understandable. We rely on representatives to make large decisions for us, and the world is a complex place. Any nationwide political action will have positive and negative effects, some of which won't be seen for decades. No individual can properly weigh the pros and cons of each decision, even if they did have access to all of the information the politicians and experts have.
Many people put their trust in a system of research and science and adjusting trajectories, but other people put their trust in an individual or a group instead. That can have disastrous consequences depending on the person/group and the amount of trust and power the attain.
If that theory works at all, then a hypothetical "controlling leader" who constantly repeats the message of "I'm right, everyone who disagrees is wrong" is making a fairly strong feedback loop.
@krustywantout I don't have any real R friends - none who loudly admit it anyway, although there are some relatives - some Trumpers there too, also some who are embarrassed by his antics and corruption. There's always hope, people can learn from mistakes - well some people, anyway. My stereotypical boomer uncle who was a big 45 stan in 2016 got quieter as the years passed. Funny. People have a right to opinions, and also a responsibility to own up to them if they want to air them publicly, especially in the age of social media. Responsibility seems to be something alien to a large part of the population.
I don't hold a lot of hope for real progress from the new regime, given its history, but it will be less regrettable and probably have at least slightly better ethics than what it is replacing. Until one side can be convinced that there's not really a deep state socialist communist anarchist conspiracy, and the other can see that Rs were at least at one time respectable, it might be slow going.
Maybe what I'd like to see most is leadership who can relate to the world of today. I like to joke that Clinton was elected nearly 30 years ago, and he's younger than both candidates this year. JFK was 46 when he was elected. Can you imagine a 46 year old POTUS today? A certain generation is still holding on tight to its power.
@cobrajoe Definitely, some people find comfort in being under a boot. Oddly, these are often the ones who preach "freedom" the loudest, and call everyone else weak snowflakes, etc. Funny how that works.
That controlling leader also doesn't have to ante up any evidence of his claims, and his fanbase will still love him - playing out right now.
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@fintail It is very ironic that "Freedom" is the thing that the controlling leader is claiming that they are fighting for. But if the controlling leader is using a verbal strategy of "I'm not doing that bad thing, you are"... Well, it may be ironic but it is self explanatory.
It kind of makes sense that quite a large section of the people who desire a "controlling leader" also seem to gravitate to a controlling religious leader. I watched a video supercut last night of several modern "prophets" who predicted Trump's victory and their reactions afterward, and it all seemed very familiar to the messages coming from the White House.
@cobrajoe Stand back, stand by! Total war! Freedom! Muh rights! Liberty!
American style megachurch/TV religion is a particularly distasteful, if not fully dangerous thing. Something something history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.