I Drove A Vehicle (mini review & personal rant) (updated with new drives and personal rants)
Snuze last edited by Snuze
Got off work early so I went to the Volvo dealer up the road to poke around the lot and ended up test driving this V60 Cross Country in "Pine Grey". Its an interesting color, get it in the light just right and its a deep, dark green. At other angles its an olive color, and others its grey. I think its a really handsome car overall.
It was quite pleasant to drive, though I didn't really thrash on it or anything. But I did a quick highway merge and power is certainly adequate. It makes 250 HP but I never had a need to go past half throttle. The 8 speed auto seems competent, it didn't hunt and shifts were firm without being jarring. It also tracks well, feels very planted despite being taller than a regular V60, and its very quiet.
Its also pretty spacious, the seats are super comfy, and it has lots of fancy bells and whistles. The biggest ding I have is the infotainment system. Pretty much everything is done on a touchscreen, which Im not crazy about as it can be a bit distracting. I actually feel this is a misstep for a company that prides itself on safety. But whats worse is the menu layout. In an age of slick smartphone apps, this felt really unpolished, like an engineering prototype released to the public. I work with a lot of specialized, in house developed software all day at work, which means bugs and poor UI. I don't really want to deal with the same in my car.
That being said, its not so awful as to be a deal breaker. This one is definitely on the list.
Since I still had some time, I went to CarMax to look ar a Camaro SS 1LE. They were not keen on letting me test drive it. After some discussion with the salesman in which I explained, truthfully, that I was just starting my car shopping journey but this was high on my list, he started throwing out excuses as to why I shouldn't drive it, he even pulled the COVID risk card.
Im not saying its not, but they are still open and doing business, and make a big deal about cleaning cars between test drives, latest guidance is COVID is low risk from touched surfaces, etc. So it must not be that big of a risk.
But then as I was leaving he offered to put in a reservation so I could come back and test drive it over the weekend, i.e. during their busiest times. This is somewhat inconvenient, but I suspect its a ploy to see just how serious I am about the car. I imagine they get a lot of yahoos that just want to come run the wheels off the sports cars for fun. I took the reservation, have it through Sunday, so I may go back and do it.
Then I came home and ended up getting into a row with Mrs Snuze over the whole thing. She doesn't like any of the cars I've picked out for myself (Camaro, GT350). She doesn't even like my "compromise" cars (V60, ATS).
So I finally put her on the spot and asked her what I should get and she gave me a generic political non-commital answer of "something thats kind of sophisticated, but also fun and sporty, but something you could customize and make your own". I told her that wasnt specific enough and I forced the question and she finally said "I don't know, like an Accord or a Jetta."
This is what my life has become. I frankly find myself questioning my marriage and choice of spouse at this point. I mean, I knew she wasnt really "into" cars when I married her, but now Im wondering if shes even "into" me? Does she even really know me as a person? (Yes Im being overly dramatic... but only kind of).
Thank you for listening to my rant.
First, allow me to clarify that I am not planning to wreck my marriage over a car. I love cars, but I love my wife more. Frankly, she's been a wonderful influence on me, especially in terms of personal finances, and is the entire reason I'm in a position to even consider a new car.
That being said, cars aren't her thing. Like, at all. Getting the Denali was like pulling teeth. Her entire criteria was whichever salesperson was nicest to her. The first car we looked at (a CX-5) she literally didn't even want to drive. I "made" her drive it, considering she would be the primary user of the vehicle 99% of the time, so she drove it in a lap around a parking lot. We had to have a heart to heart after that, and things improved, but it was still a difficult process.
I should also point out that I've been wanting a new car for a couple years now, and on multiple occasions she's told me "Screw it, just buy the damn car, you deserve it!" And "the damn car" was in reference to a Camaro because that's ultimately what I've been pining over. Its been my affordable dream car since childhood, when I was in love with 3rd Gen IROCs. But I've also realized that perhaps this is a strategy to cope with me successfully in marriage - she will agree to, or even encourage things she may not agree with when she thinks the risk of me acting on those things is low. I know I've done it with her, I think the main difference is it's usually smaller purchases vs. me getting a car.
Also, I will add that I've cast a wide net for a few reasons, not the least of which is I'm here with you crazy people. That should tell you all about my varied car interests my dream garage is like a Ferrari 458, a hot-rodded Volvo 240 wagon, and a Lada Niva. So the Camaro is my attainable dream car. I also considered a Mustang GT350 because flat plane noises. She clearly doesn't like either, so my next choice that was somewhat closer to her idea of a car for me was a Cadillac ATS 2.0T - it's more refined, has 4 doors, etc. She said that Cadillacs are for old people. So I've enjoyed my Volvo 850, so I figured I should looked at a new one, and became infatuated with the V60 Cross Country. It's not a my dream car, but it is immensely practical and would be a good fit for my lifestyle. We talked a bit more last night, she's starting to come around on it, but she still spiteful of the Volvos because I already own 2 and she thinks my relatively newfound Volvo love is a fad.
So now that I've unloaded all that baggage and you understand how and why I've arrived at this particular place in space and time, allow me to tell you...
I DROVE THE CAMARO SS 1LE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously don't know how @Arch-Duke-Maxyenko doesn't come on here every single day and rave about how good this car is. I mean, I know he's said it, but oh my lord. I laughed like an idiot the entire test drive. It was amazing. It was so much fun. I was shaking when I got out of the car. It took me like an hour to process everything and for my brain to catch up. I am trying to think of other automotive experiences that are this good, and there's only two I can come up with: the time I got to drive a Ferrari 458, and going full send on my old CBR-1000RR Repsol. But the beauty is, I can afford this one (unlike the Ferrari), and I can use it as a daily driver (unlike the bike).
I am in love with this car, but I'm not going to wreck my marriage over it.
So I guess I'll see you all in a new V60 CC soon...
pip bip last edited by
@snuze some dealers clearly don't want to let people drive cars before they buy.
SilentbutnotreallyDeadly last edited by
Poor decision making always improves the life of others...the trick is knowing which poor decisions one should truly invest in.
Sovande last edited by
@snuze Buy the wagon and then swing by so I can drool. I'd watch the Notebook with that wagon.
krustywantout last edited by krustywantout
@snuze I wouldn't get too worked up about the wife trying to get you to buy something practical. It's their job to reign us in because we do get a little crazy when it comes to cars. I'd also keep the car discussions to a minimum with her until you are sure on what you really want; that's what we're here for!
Question: you went from a Swedish beige mobile to an American muscle car for test drives. That's a wide net you are casting. I'm not saying they are bad cars but I'd make a list of what you want out of the car and the experience you are looking for so you can better pinpoint what you want. Happy car shopping!
Eury last edited by
I am in love with that wagon. It wasn't on my radar for my Spring car shopping, but now it is.
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@snuze I second what @krustywantout said. Not having a spouse support crazy car ideas should not end a marriage, it's one of the many things we have to negotiate in a shared life. Plus, if you become more clear about what you want then it allows you to better communicate why this is important to you.
I might have had more automotive fun if not married, but my life overall is much better shared with my wife, which makes it worth it. Hopefully that is true for you, too.
@pip-bip Carmax is a nationwide chain of used car dealerships. Doug Demuro loved them for a while due to their absurdly cheap warranty that they would apply to any car.
Sadly thats changed a bit. But they are still pretty laid back compared to normal dealerships, and I imagine that people like to abuse that to run the wheels of sports cars. So in this case its a bit understandable.
@Sovande It may yet happen. I love the pine grey, and there are 2 in the area, that one in Rockville MD, and one down in Fredericksburg, which has the amber interior. Im not sure which I like more. Actually, if I could find Pine Grey with the City Weave cloth inserts Id probably buy it in a heartbeat, but I havent seen one anywhere in the US. There is a Denim blue one with City Weave in Fairfax, though...
Sovande last edited by
My favorite color is the denim blue. The only interior that I don't care for is the bright white they have. The amber looks nice and the black is.... Black.
I agree, dont like the white. Ive also heard it shows wear badly, even blue jean stains! Yikes!
The denim is a pretty color as well and I might give that one some consideration.
Neil in Nomi last edited by
I’ve had a lot of similar experiences shopping with my wife; and quite frankly my fascination with cars seems lost on her. Honestly the difference of opinion only really comes to ahead when we are shopping for a car. Hear her out and understand her point of view. And don’t forget a GLI is a Jetta and the Accord 2.0T sport is a beloved practical car.
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@snuze I'll echo what others have said, in that your casting an awfully wide net here. I don't see myself customizing a new volvo wagon either, nice as they are, and a full on v8 muscle car I can get some reservation about. You don't have to know exactly what you want; that's part of the fun. But yeah, maybe you're giving off some mixed signals here.
But who know, im just some guy on the internet, who happens to live somewhat close to a Fairfax volvo dealership
nermal last edited by
@snuze The logical choice then is to skip the car nonsense and just get a Power Wagon, like you've probably secretly wanted all along.
MUSASHI66 last edited by
My wife understands my car desires. I actually turned her into a bit of a speed demon - she went from a manual CR-V to automatic RAV4 which ended up being too slow, to a quick-ish Forester XT, to even quicker WRX, but then she reverted to SUVs with the latest 2017 RDX. But, we both wanted a quick, somewhat luxury vehicle from a Honda/Toyota umbrella, and this really met our needs.
So, she was fine with me getting the Abarth, although she doesn’t like the Abarth. I was fine with her getting the RDX, although a TLX would have save us $2000-5000. Here is the idea - she has her car she loves, so she never had to use mine for anything. If we’re going somewhere, we can always take her car, and even if her car is in for service, we have the truck as well.
We do the same with leftover money - anything that is left after goals are met is split in half and it goes into “no judgement” accounts. I can buy car parts, she can have horse lessons. We both earn it, and we both deserve to have fun we like as individuals.
Fight for this. There are plenty of good, non boring cars. I can her not liking the Camaro, but the Volvo is a very sensible vehicle.
Shit, that sucks about the wife. She preferred the accord or Jetta over the Volvo? Not that those aren’t fine in their own right, but still...(then again, I’m partial to Volvo, missing my XC70)
My question is: who will be driving it the most?
Huzer last edited by
@snuze My wife doesn't understand my car infatuation. At all. But as long as I'm not getting something stupidly expensive or wildly impractical, she understands it's what I like. For the most part when I talk about cars now, her eyes either glaze over, or I get an eye roll.
The only vehicle she was definitely NOT supportive of, was the Scat Pack Challenger. Which I thought was odd, as I even took my son and his hockey gear with me to make sure everything and everyone would still fit in the vehicle. But when I came home and said that's what I was getting, hooo boyyy!
Shop-Teacher last edited by
My mom once told me that everyone has a crazy person inside them. And when the crazy person shows up, never tell them they're right, or you'll start seeing the crazy person a lot more often.
Do not buy an Accord or a Jetta.
Taylor Martin last edited by
I'm not a big fan of touchscreens either for the same reason. The problem is we're the minority. I'm perfectly happy with using an aux cord and pushing a few buttons on my steering wheel and just using my phone as a GPS, but other people want that blue tooth touch screen digital modern tech package ultra supreme junk. Eventually, center consoles will disappear and be replaced with iPads and plastics. The future is now... woohoo...
kleebrz last edited by
honestly, an accord/jetta recommendation is already a good sign. maybe she has a bias against "station wagons" and is afraid of the soccer mom style. my wife fears mini vans for that reason.
it's better than her suggesting camry/altima. or corolla/sentra. (although I'm eager to test drive a corolla these days...)
take her along for the test drives and maybe you guys will find more commonality in your tastes than you realize.
my wife also did not understand my taste in cars when we married.
when we married, I sold my 1968 BMW 1600-2. which she complained smelled like her childhood Ford LTD.
she liked my Audi TT, but guilt tripped me into selling it out of fear that I wasn't willing to make practical compromises with our second kid on the way.
I wasn't in LOVE with that car, so it was a good compromise, and not a killer sacrifice for me.
But I had to drive a hand me down TSX for the next 4 years.
I bought her a used RX350 which she adored, and when it was totaled replaced it with a QX60 because she refused to be seen in a minivan.
She eventually recognized that the family WAS authentically my priority and when it came to replace the flooded TSX, she didn't even bat an eye when I told her I wanted to buy my dream BRZ Limited 6MT. (after 6 years of marriage)
It takes time, sacrifice, and genuinely, the transforming power of the gospel of Jesus Christ, but it's possible to earn your wife's trust!
VincentMalamute last edited by VincentMalamute
something thats kind of sophisticated, but also fun and sporty, but something you could customize and make your own
Wait, the V60 doesn't tick all those boxes for your wife? That's a good looking car. I much prefer the V60 over the Camaro. Really too bad about the touchscreen - that would probably kill it for me.
I have no opinion on your wife issues - I don't want to stick my nose in there
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WhoIsTheLeader last edited by
I would say it's a good thing that your spouse doesn't share your passion for cars because then you'd have twice the project cars. It's very important that you have common ground where even though she doesn't get it, there is agreeance in major purchases like a car.
And with something as expensive as a new Volvo it's paramount to get her on board with it. Not sure why she doesn't like the V60 but maybe a test drive could change her mind. I would absolutely try to establish a definite price range and define what exactly the car will need to do to help narrow down things. A Camaro and a V60 are very different vehicles and the price difference can be quite a lot.
And don't forget about the Accord 2.0T 6MT if negotiations gridlock.
I like my Acura wagon but that is the car I really want.
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Loosing a Volvo over a marriage ain't worth it.