The crazies will find a way
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Happened close to where I grew up, like as in I texted a few people to see if they're okay. Not a neighbourhood you'd ever expect something like this to go down. The RCMP Spokesman actually has a tear while speaking mid way in the video.
I dunno, I'm just pissed off at how people with mental health issues are dealt with these days [among other things]. It goes for both harmless and criminals.
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@exage03040 Riverview (or whatever its called now) should be reopened at full capacity
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Like I understand there was issues with such buildings but it sure seems like it was a "baby thrown out with the bathwater" deal with the capacity severely reduced.
There are a few people that just shouldn't be out there when they snap. No amount of money, rehabilitation or length in jail resulting in parole is going to sort them out. Nor is sending the police out every time to deal with them when they get agitated.
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@exage03040 The deinstitutionalization movement of the 70s were the end result of some pretty brutal practices within the realm of the mental health system (which considered involuntary sterilization just part of treatment, something that occasionally gets ignored in Canadian history). Mental health has and likely will always have a stigma with it. No number of Bell Let's Talk campaigns will fix that.
It's unfortunate, but there's a balance between individual autonomy and the state not being able to forcibly confine people against their will for mental health, and the greater wellbeing of the community that a very small minority of mentally ill people could harm. Not everyone thinks they need help, not everyone wants treatment, and treatment isn't really effective without a patient wanting to change.
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As someone whose mother is thankfully still alive after dealing with bipolar depression most of her life, I'm very thankful for the reforms that have happened. I visited my mom one time in "one of those places", and it was one of the saddest moments of my life.
That said, some people are a great danger to themselves and others, especially with our easy access to firearms in the US. There have to be strong "red flag" laws, that will allow a parent, sibling, teacher, pastor, policeman, etc. to report a person who should not have access to deadly weapons, and, as sad as it is, there need to be places to confine people who, if not, remain a danger to society.
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but there's a balance between individual autonomy and the state not being able to forcibly confine people against their will for mental health
I don’t know what Canadian incarceration rates are like for substance abuse, which is a mental health issue, but we have no problem locking people up for it here. We mostly just took away the facade of “helping” people with mental health issues in the ‘70s.
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Not everyone thinks they need help, not everyone wants treatment, and treatment isn't really effective without a patient wanting to change.
That pretty much sums up my ex-wife... whom my kids are feeling stressed lately over her declining mental health... and outright hostility when they suggested her seeing a psychotherapist.