DOTS: Detroit Intensifies Edition
WhoIsTheLeader last edited by WhoIsTheLeader
Well dang, I saw a perfect Chevy Beretta coupe resplendent in red over red today.
This thing just came out of nowhere, driving along like it is no big deal. This Beretta was mint. And the red interior from what I could see of it was indeed exactly as red as you're imagining.
Here's an internet photo to help you imagine it. Mazda 626 would love this thing.
And only a few feet away was a suspiciously well maintained Chrysler LHS. No this is not your ordinary Concorde, this is an LHS! I honestly forgot these ever existed.
Even stranger is that the owner looked like he was in his mid 20s and working a construction job. I'm guessing grandpa bequeathed him his garage kept low miles 2000s luxo barge. It's so 2000s it hurts.
But what's tis behind it? Honestly, out of the LSH, Beetle, Econoline, Ram bro edition, and Beretta, I'd be tempted to take the LHS. What would you have, Oppo?
interstate366 last edited by interstate366
It’s LHS, not LSH. I had a coworker about 4-5 years ago, and I had no idea they existed until then. Like you, I thought it was just another Concorde.
spacekraken last edited by spacekraken
@WhoIsTheLeader Econoline 9 times out of 10, such a good camper/utility rig built out right. The other one time? Beetle. Even in naturally aspirated form they're nice to drive at least.
The Chrysler is insanely clean though.
@spacekraken Well the headlights weren't crazy clean and the grille had some sun damage. But the interior was near perfect from what I saw and the body didn't have dents or scrapes. When's the last time you saw any LHS, much less one that well cared for?
I think I give the Beetle a bad rap but I'm just not the biggest fan of the last gen. If it came down to it, I might take it over the LHS but ideally I'd just take the bro truck and sell it.
chan last edited by
@whoistheleader now you got me feeling scared of the Y2K bug.
@whoistheleader I genuinely can't say-american vehicles that aren't trucks aren't particularly a thing out west. Probably a few years ago?
Not a fan of the looks of the beetle but they drive well and have good engines and transmissions (it's a Golf MK6 haha)
Good point on just selling the bro truck-I wasn't even thinking of that! I like the idea of a camper rig so it could be useful de-bro'd or just build out the E350.
@interstate366 Sorry, I corrected it. Yeah, I thought, "woah, clean Concorde. Wait, does that say LHS on it? What on earth? Is that like a trim of the Concorde?"
But no, it's Chrysler's flagship that replaced the Imperial. They're really swoopy looking boats, I'll give them that. Pretty decent looking for a 2000s Chrysler too. I like the rear but didn't get a photo of that.
*Beige intensifies *
@chan Look we've got a bug going around now and I don't need to help things by contributing.
@spacekraken The Econolines are good camper bases but I honestly have no idea what I'd do with a camper.
The Beetle is probably competent and fun but they just don't do it for me. I'd rather have a Golf.
American cars aren't a thing out west? Like, what part of the west? The Impala still sells decently and other American cars had decent market share when they were sold at all. I like my Cruze so I contribute to that.
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@whoistheleader Other car companies share a platform between divisions, Chrysler just makes three copies of the same car under the same brand. That being said, gimme a 300M. Same car but less blobby and with a foot of overhang hacked off the rear.
@whoistheleader Like among maybe 30 friends with cars here (oregon, california), I think there's... four big 3 vehicles? 2 Wranglers, a Ram 3500 and an F150, no cars. I think that's a bit of the west coast car culture-there's probably 5 german and 10 japanese sedans for every big 3 sedan.
Re: E350: I do a lot of big hike/bike/ski trips so especially in covid times having a little portable home to live out of for a few days sounds awesome, especially in these times haha.
I was real curious on the west coast thing so I looked up california top selling cars:
@essextee but I need more vague pretentiousness with European alphanumeric soup names and more cubic feet of luxury!
@spacekraken This is clearly a year or two out of date but it was all I could find.
Seems about right. Lots of American cars here. But there's lots of everything too as Atlanta is a city of transplants and therefore a city of all automotive tastes. And when you get to CUVs and SUVs those brands stay at the top.
I have no idea where I'd take a camper van. What exactly does one do with one anyways? Where do you go and how do you use it?
Just thinking about my immediate friend group there's several American cars around. Lots of Japanese ones too and not one German car that I can think of.
@whoistheleader That seems about right for sure. I think my bunch of friends and family are all biased-here's a quick list of close friends/family's cars:
Two more MK7s
Leaf, 3series, M3, Tundra
A6 Avant Quattro
And probably a dozen more toyotas and subarus I'm missing haha-oregon has a very specific "default" car.
Most of the campgrounds around here are forest service/BLM land so you can kind of car camp, tent camp to your heart's content with what amounts to a parking pass if you don't mind not having amenities. It's super fun for the most part! I live in Portland so the fun skiing/hiking/beaches are all 2 hours or so drive, making it into an overnight trip definitely adds to the enjoyment on a good weekend.
WhoIsTheLeader last edited by WhoIsTheLeader
@spacekraken try finding a fun place to camp inside a vehicle anywhere remotely near Atlanta. You won't. There isn't the large tracts of public land and what land there is you don't just wander into with a vehicle. There are some designated campgrounds but not many places you'd be able to drive into and be secluded.
Just in my family there's a Fusion, my Cruze, a Silverado, Ranger, a Lincoln MKZ, and a whole lot of other Ford products no longer in the family. I guess my mom's Ford era Volvo XC90 counts as European.
And F150s and other American cars abound in my friend groups. Mostly SUVs but there's a lot of them. Then you get a smattering of Hondas, Toyotas, Nissan's, and the like. Not too many Korean cars and very little European stuff. Almost entirely Japanese and American it seems.
Chariotoflove last edited by
The Concorde and its ilk were from a time when Chrysler was touting “cab forward design” as a selling point. It’s just funny that a decade or so later, the interest swing back to longer fronts to simulate a RWD look, even in FWD cars like Impala, etc. Everything is cyclical in fashion and design.
@whoistheleader Aww darn, but kind of makes sense given what a big urban area it is. You have lots to do in town as a good tradeoff!
Makes sense on the SUVs too. Might just be more service options/dealers for euro stuff here.
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@spacekraken I'm also in Portland... my wife and I joke about the Prius/Outback concentration all the time. Once we were looking for a parking spot, and I said, "There's one, between the Subarus." She said, "You'll have to be more specific, every spot here is betwen the Subarus."
You're right, though; I grew up in the Midwest, and I seem to be the only one of my friends who isn't afraid of American cars. And I'd take that red Beretta in a heartbeat (of America).
spacekraken last edited by spacekraken
@mark-tucker Haha if you see a dude in a blue Alltrack wagon with yellow fog lights and rock guards give me a wave!
Yeah it's kind of comical how localized the car culture is here at times. Definitely have had trouble finding my friend's subarus in parking lots. I think in the case of my parents and friend's parents they also grew up with the 70's-early 80's questionable build quality of big 3 sedans and slightly better build quality of VWs and BMWs of the time, and by the 90s had fully adopted various japanese/german brands. Old habits stick around even with lots of folks very happy with modern Ford/GM/FCA stuff.
chan last edited by chan
@spacekraken Tesla is huge in CA now, so that skews things pretty far back towards "American." So there's that going on as well...
Also, there's a spike in Tesla consumption in Asia, which is probably the most success an American car manufacturer has ever had outside of America. For the last 4-5 years Tesla has regularly ranked #1 or #2 in sales in Hong Kong, my other home. Aided by hefty tax breaks, of course.
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The LHS/Concorde/300/New Yorker/Eagle Vision/Dodge Intrepid LH platform cars are among the elite few that are longitudinally mounted engines and FWD.
pickup_man last edited by
Berretta hands down. I have a weird love for those cars and think they're really cool. Then the Ram, Beetle, Econoline, getting hit by a bus, Chrysler.
trivet last edited by
My wife (then girlfriend) had a 88 Beretta. Blue - very, very blue. Inside and out.
I actually liked the car, it was sharp looking, good mileage, actually drove well, and was pretty cheap. (Her first new car). Other than the paint flaking off a few times (covered under warranty) we never had an issue with it.
Not the actual car, but very similiar - hers had the steelies, which looked really good on the car
@spacekraken Without a doubt. There are several good specialist shops here given how many people and cars are in such a tight geographic area but nowhere in the US is it as easy to own a wacky and uncommon or hard to maintain car as in San Francisco and Los Angeles. There is a fantastic Volvo specialist that is so good my family takes our non-Swedish cars there too. And I've seen quite a few German car specialty shops in and around the suburbs of Atlanta, including that one Porsche 914 place.
It's true, there is tons of stuff to do around every corner. I love living in the city. You can walk everywhere in Atlanta proper and everything you could possibly want is within an hour's drive. Well, except car camping spots.
@chariotoflove True, the cab forward design got less popular as FWD got more normal. Now, every FWD car is trying to look RWD. Personally, I think if it's FWD, it should look FWD.