Where are you getting your numbers from? I make it 220KW for the Renault and 302kW for the Beemer (both numbers ex whichcar.com.au).
good point. wikipedia, but i mistook kW for HP. you're right, the M2 is 100hp more powerful than the fastest megane, and yet the megane is faster. but even so, the weight difference is pretty big among other things, it's hard to say that this proves FWD alone can be faster.
The whole question is becoming increasingly academic anyway: nowadays, if it’s not AWD, everything under a certain power level is FWD because packaging and everything over it is RWD because weight transfer - there’s not a lot of exceptions left, and with the crossoverpocalypse meaning all platforms are engineered for AWD, and EVs about to change the whole meaning of handling for better or worse, it’s going to get more academic, more’s the pity.
this is true. also things have changed a lot since this Elan, we're able to put a lot more power through the front wheels while maintaining good grippy handling.
@glemon Yup, it’s mid-front engined and front wheel drive. The LeCar/R5 is the same way.
Many Renaults and Citroens of the period were. Traction, DS, SM, R4, R5, R16, probably more I can’t think of offhand. Also the Saab Sonnet Mk1, which used a Saab 93 powertrain turned 180 degrees in the engine bay and rotating backwards!
@AuthiCooper1300 I just feel like the Fumia Ypsilon was an unfortunate styling "dead-end" if you will, taking very few cues from the resolutely angular I.D.E.A. cars that defined the brand through '90s. If the Fumia Lybra had come to light it would validate the swoopy lines of the Ypsilon which are more coherent and attractive on the larger car anyway, IMO. I especially like Fumia's concave rear end on his Lybra where the production car would end up with a flat panel and generic 2000s 'Euro' taillights:
I know I know, but it just so happened that there were three 'Italian' compacts at that time and I find the magic number of comparison to be three; if you have two it's too bipartisan, and four starts getting confusing. Besides, I figured the acquired taste of the Ypsilon's looks would sway some towards choosing the others, and at the end of the day it's all just a theoretical poll meant to spark conversation.
I guess when I muse on Fiat's success I am also implying their long term future success. I would argue that for as well as it's sold up to now, the Trepiuno has kind of pigeonholed Fiat into being a purveyor of 'retro' style and the brand is having trouble selling cars outside of the 500 segment. That could entirely be down to brand mismanagement as Fiat are wont to do, but the retro trends can only be contrived so far. I really am amazed Mini has managed to make it 3 generations just restyling the same idea of a '50s compact; in 50 years, will it even be able to be considered 'retro' anymore?
Agreed on Stephenson, his stuff is generally excellent and it's crazy realizing how many relevant (semi)modern cars you see these days were done by him.