Lotes

Is the plural of Lotus. THIS was a meetup of cars, and the theme was Lotes. It was totes Lotes. I took some photes

@way2blu Take note! For Lotes that fail to adhere to the "simplify and add lightness" quote, shall thus be wrote: Botes

@Wrong-Wheel-Drive Yeah the airport tarmac event is always great and much more spread out than the parking lot courses. But in the handful of events I have done, I've barely even used 3rd. A kart track is a great idea.

@TheJWT said in late night oppo:

@pip-bip One of my all-time dream cars

On the other hand, my mother's Dodge Omni Miser was one of my all-time nightmare cars. It may not be the worst car I ever drove, but it was one of the worst new cars I drove. The "Miser" trim level didn't help. Chrysler tried to make it cheaper, and they succeeded by removing anything that made driving an acceptable experience.

@pip-bip
I've never found myself with company inside a hedge...

@flatisflat said in Hour rule:

@Just-Jeepin Same. Also, this whole area rubs me wrong every time I see it.

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You have to see one in person. The windows frame is wonky on side views but the windscreen and roof together is curved quite a bit so the top line of it matches the side windows. Unfortunately that line doesn’t match a flat roof and looks really off on profile views.
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To take a picture of the profile, one has to squat down very low. I’m 6-3, and the roof only comes up to my belt. It’s very low. So the actual view of this thing is only from somewhat above.

Family came down with 'Rona, kids were mostly fine but my wife was taken OUT for a day or two. Me? I got literally nothing, bounced off me like I was force ghost Luke (the only cool part of the last star wars movie but I digress).

Then my son brings back a stomach bug and I am down for the count 3 days... I slept 48 hours of it. Kick started the weight loss thing tho, and that was cool.

Congrats on not dying, hopefully your body does the force ghost luke thing next time you encounter it. Being sick, for any reason, sucks. Waste of time.

@Violet Ahh, NFS2 memories

One of my top 5 dream cars for sure

Sweet!

@Noodles these but with 8 holes s-l500.jpg

Genesis Project

@pip-bip

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@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly it's a magical place.

@Noodles Update. IMG20221229212645.jpg IMG20221229212634.jpg IMG20221229212630.jpg I'll try to paint it without drilling the little plate.

The KC Auto Museum hosts Cars and Coffee twice a month in the warm season, once at the Museum Building in Olathe and once at the Underground there. If you go to the C&C at the Underground, access is free; otherwise there is a small fee for the tour.

However, that tour money goes to their capital campaign. The future plan is to build the new museum on top of the parking structure/lot and consolidate the facilities. The grand plan for the Underground is that you will have the ability to store your car there, and you can choose to allow it to be an exhibit piece when you are not using it. It is a pretty neat concept.

I have considered using their space, but parking the daily outside and scraping windows for a couple months because the convertible is about as watertight as a colander isn't super inconvenient at the moment.

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@pip-bip
It's about ten minutes.
It'll fill a few minutes. 😉

@RacinBob I don't know anything about lotus pricing of that era but wow that seems like a really great deal. Looks like everything had been gone through. Maybe front suspension needed some work but really looked clean. Some rust here and there but nothing significant.

@t0ast this might be the number one car on oppo that I'm most jealous of.

@ash78 precisely!! They named it after the best software this side of Kinja

@HFV and Hyundai makes an Avant(e)!

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@SilentbutnotreallyDeadly said in late night oppo:

@pip-bip
'Oh fuck...I'm going backwards again...'

I feel this was a Top Gear quote...

@іди-на-хуй-Влад-formerly-known-as-Distraxi This is good Oppo.

@just-a-scratch Good point. We did have the option available. I probably would have picked up another open lap or two if I did that, but I didn't want to sweat things too much on the first session and part of me was curious to see if/when the corner workers would blue flag them. They didn't for that particular instance, but to their credit, I did at least see that flag being deployed in later sessions.

@Fish-McSticks said in Lotus has had some of the most legendary drivers:

lotus drivers

Lotus/Renault Thanks Piquet Jr.

@Nick-Hynds He could be team principal.

@Qaaaaa said in Elise Update: Parts Cannon Fired (by a trained professional):

https://www.motorsportreg.com/calendar/?country=US&radius=120&lat=39.10&lng=-94.58&loc=Kansas+City

Don't hope. Just do it!

Already eyeing a couple of possible events next month 🙂

back when you could drive your le mans car home after the race

@MybirdIStheword cool

@Hamster-V10 i am pleased

@Just-Jeepin orange lotus and delorean plz.

@t0ast This is the kind of in-depth info that we come here for. Fuckin brilliant. Please keep schooling us.

@pip-bip Night

@t0ast Absolutely stunning. Can't wait to see what you do with it.

Has to be the MR2, the 4age with ITBs is just an incredible sound

@amoore100 Lotus or Renault to be fair.

@Snakesm13 That very much seems to be the case. I'm reasonably motivated, but not just missed out on 4 other Elises motivated. I've also still got until September-ish to leverage the tax benefits from selling my Exocet as well.

@іди-на-хуй-Влад-formerly-known-as-Distraxi said in People's Choice: Redefining the Sport:

Where are you getting your numbers from? I make it 220KW for the Renault and 302kW for the Beemer (both numbers ex whichcar.com.au).

good point. wikipedia, but i mistook kW for HP. you're right, the M2 is 100hp more powerful than the fastest megane, and yet the megane is faster. but even so, the weight difference is pretty big among other things, it's hard to say that this proves FWD alone can be faster.

The whole question is becoming increasingly academic anyway: nowadays, if it’s not AWD, everything under a certain power level is FWD because packaging and everything over it is RWD because weight transfer - there’s not a lot of exceptions left, and with the crossoverpocalypse meaning all platforms are engineered for AWD, and EVs about to change the whole meaning of handling for better or worse, it’s going to get more academic, more’s the pity.

this is true. also things have changed a lot since this Elan, we're able to put a lot more power through the front wheels while maintaining good grippy handling.

@siennaman
I learned to drive a manual transmission on my parents 1981 Dodge Omni Miser, and I don't remember it fondly. I went from that to a 1991 Saturn SL which weighed 150 pounds more, but it performed far better. The Omni had 68 hp with a 4-speed, while the Saturn had 85 hp and a five-speed. If you wanted more, the Saturn SC2 was only 2400 pounds with 124 hp. It may not sound like much, but it had a pretty good power to weight ratio.

I've driven a Porsche 914, which weighs just slightly less than the Omni. I think that Porsche would be the lightest car I've driven.

@1969r16 said in People's Choice: Mid-Engined Musings:

@glemon Yup, it’s mid-front engined and front wheel drive. The LeCar/R5 is the same way.

Many Renaults and Citroens of the period were. Traction, DS, SM, R4, R5, R16, probably more I can’t think of offhand. Also the Saab Sonnet Mk1, which used a Saab 93 powertrain turned 180 degrees in the engine bay and rotating backwards!

@Napoli I'm not sure how much power the Y has because Tesla doesn't actually publish that information. I see numbers ranging from 450 to 197 hp.

@SmallScaleSydney ah yes, the esprit
#neverforgate

@FractalFootwork looks like every other new CUV/SUV… meh.

@Nick-Hynds

Nice. Lightness added.

@pip-bip
Fast Fours and Rotaries magazine had a few of these come through over the years. They were always generous in saying they were a decent handling shitbox...without suggesting they were anything more than a shitbox.

@nauraushaun

I wonder what the weight of a typical power liftgate is (adds).

@mr-ontop excellent find

@mercedes_500e_w124 I wish I could buy one now, because you know they'll only go up in value. I know 5 years ago you could get one for 30k grand, Which is impressive because they were like 40k new, a car only loosing 25% of its value over 10 years is pretty good, but now 45k is "cheap".
It is funny that by the nature of the car, 40-50,0000 miles is a "high mileage" example

@aremmes If you did an electric conversion you could call it Elan Musk.

@just-jeepin
This is the correct answer
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@nermal I would not buy something that isn't a C6 ZR1 for C6 ZR1 money.

@davesaddiction that is clean!

@sn-p agreed

@flatisflat Looks like the knockoff Lotus in GTA V lol

@genesis_haysenhox Probably

@grindintosecond The shade of red that won is also pretty good

@nick-hynds I’d hope the stripe is a decal and could be removed.

@nick-hynds Dark Amethyst is intriguing; need to see it in better lighting...

@mercedes_500e_w124 I like both of them