The Cadillac BS was a complete dud. Hideous, higher depreciation than a leaking carton of milk and then there's the badge. There are few redeeming factors, except for it being an oddity. Just get the Saab or the Opel instead.
The Seat is part of the VAG company, which kind of dismisses it outright in my book. Other than that, over the years they came with a wide range of engines. One even more unreliable than the next one. With only few exceptions. And then there's the optional DSG. So, finding a decent one that is not only in decent condition but also has the correct engine and transmission is a chore.
That leaves the Lancia. Much more reliable than the Seat, much more uniquely styled than the Cadillac BS. Do I love it? No. But I have sympathy for the car. Something I don't have for the other two.
@Future-Next-Gen-S2000-Owner They're less obtrusive, certainly, don't detract from the vehicle as much with less color and designs. Although my state isn't too bad, just plain lettering on a plain background, I don't mind it. Been the same since the late '50s, too
@Mark-Tucker@Vondon302 This one was for sale locally on Craigslist, posted about it to Kinja/Oppo in February 2019. There were 19 comments; I imagine if I had any way to find the comments I could find out what price they were asking, but I'm pretty sure it was closer to half of $10k. A shame.
Oh, that one is very nice....love that front bumper!
@glemon Yup, it’s mid-front engined and front wheel drive. The LeCar/R5 is the same way.
Many Renaults and Citroens of the period were. Traction, DS, SM, R4, R5, R16, probably more I can’t think of offhand. Also the Saab Sonnet Mk1, which used a Saab 93 powertrain turned 180 degrees in the engine bay and rotating backwards!
@AuthiCooper1300 I just feel like the Fumia Ypsilon was an unfortunate styling "dead-end" if you will, taking very few cues from the resolutely angular I.D.E.A. cars that defined the brand through '90s. If the Fumia Lybra had come to light it would validate the swoopy lines of the Ypsilon which are more coherent and attractive on the larger car anyway, IMO. I especially like Fumia's concave rear end on his Lybra where the production car would end up with a flat panel and generic 2000s 'Euro' taillights:
I know I know, but it just so happened that there were three 'Italian' compacts at that time and I find the magic number of comparison to be three; if you have two it's too bipartisan, and four starts getting confusing. Besides, I figured the acquired taste of the Ypsilon's looks would sway some towards choosing the others, and at the end of the day it's all just a theoretical poll meant to spark conversation.
I guess when I muse on Fiat's success I am also implying their long term future success. I would argue that for as well as it's sold up to now, the Trepiuno has kind of pigeonholed Fiat into being a purveyor of 'retro' style and the brand is having trouble selling cars outside of the 500 segment. That could entirely be down to brand mismanagement as Fiat are wont to do, but the retro trends can only be contrived so far. I really am amazed Mini has managed to make it 3 generations just restyling the same idea of a '50s compact; in 50 years, will it even be able to be considered 'retro' anymore?
Agreed on Stephenson, his stuff is generally excellent and it's crazy realizing how many relevant (semi)modern cars you see these days were done by him.
@napoli Hit Mirage or Micra would be the first two things on my list when I end up replacing Humdrum as a DD. But even a base Mirage is like $13k or 15k or somewhere thereabouts here brand new, and there is only one Mitsu dealership in our province over an hour from me, so there aren't ALL that many around 😞
@pip-bip Oh, that's a cool pic! I don't have that one, but have some other 500 snow pics 0 I like #2 because maybe not so great for rust, but good on that guy for DDing his 500....rear-engine and rear-wheel drive would mean it's gotta be fun for snownuts! 😄 😉
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@pip-bip A guy at Cars & Coffee over the weekend had a 1970 that was imported from Sicily earlier this year (fortunately, I'm not in Maine, Rhode Island, or New Jersey, otherwise, I guess he'd be restricted to driving in circles on his front lawn)
Says it has no trouble holding a 50-55mph cruising speed once it gets up there, it just takes forever to get up there.
@pip-bip This is still probably the ideal sized car for either congested areas, or just homes with limited off-street parking capacity. I mean, if you could get a 4-seater with those outside dimensions, and that level of character and style today, I'd be tempted
Yuck. I think we had a Dodge Journey taxi where I live. The taxi driver was an odd ball when it came to cars, he had a Toyota Prius, Dodge Avenger, Dodge Journey and a few others.
One of the most recent was a Dacia Logan MCV.