@tophercrowder considering it cost $5 million in 1953 ($56.3 million with inflation), I'd say they got their money's worth. 70 years, still with original engines and boilers, and generally pretty reliable, and still in good condition. Probably a good 30 years longer than the original builders expected back in the early '50s and still going

@Cé-hé-sin

FR80 is referring to the Frame # of the vessels hull in that case Frame 80

I believe the others are likely tanks or voids

I'm very certain 1DW-FPK at Frame 88 is indicating Fore Peak Tank and 1PW-S from Frame 80 to Frame 88 should be indicating Ballast Tank 1 Starboard but It may be Potable Water Tanks

@amoore100 jealous! Go harass some crabs for us 🦀

@Taylor-Martin Well, the issue is German copyright....the German auto companies are super anal about removing anything because of the way copyright works there. All my German car stuff was taken down (my classic Merc 'Fintail' gauge cluster, my Beetle cluster designs, and my classic Mini Cooper cluster [because BMW owns Mini these days])....my Honda Beat and classic pre-facelift Renault 5 designs got taken down too....which is frustrating because the Renault 5 one was one of my favorites that I've ever done!
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@Neil-in-Nomi Small lakes are perfect for this type of thing. Can row or swim a short distance to shore. No real reason for range.

I love sunset cruises around the lake at my parents cabin.

@StuckMTB

It looks like the Edgar B Speer.
https://boatnerd-1.fandom.com/wiki/Edgar_B._Speer

There are two possibilities. The design may maximize the volume for carrying ore while still fitting in the locks. Alternately, the flat rear could be for the unloading system. The link indicates there is a rear unloading system, and the flat rear may allow getting closer to the pier. I imagine ore capacity and speed of loading/unloading takes precedence over speed in the water.

@CB

They've tried walk on only ferries from Downtown Vancouver to Downtown Victoria and they aren't really profitable unless it's summer: https://www.timescolonist.com/business/v2v-explains-why-its-shutting-down-its-victoria-vancouver-ferry-service-4678241

This was direct between two tourist destinations, 3h one way trip $120 Adult, $60 Children.

Every year or 2 someone always floats the idea of Mainland Downtown to Island Downtown Victoria or Nanaimo

Just my personal thoughts given I suppose I could be subpoenaed as subject matter expert...

People generally don't like to take ferries. You basically have to be the only route to that place (so an island with no bridges), be vehicle ro-ro (so people can take their cars), or the trip has to be extremely long to take a car (like full driving days long). Ideally all 3...

Most of the foot passenger ferries that are able to run in North America are typically quick ultra urban as to be integral hubs to a mass transit system and have to be government subsidized. IF your transit system is any bit shit on either side, people aren't going to want to deal with taking a walk-on ferry. They are going to want to drive.

Realistically to take this ferry even with a 30min trip you have to account for terminal arrival and boarding, departure at St. Catherine's then getting in gear to go to Niagara [another 40min from what I'm seeing]. I mean the quickest in actual real world timings I want to say is a 90min trip... Driving is like 2h? [Correct me if I'm wrong]

Ask anyone if they want to drive in their personal car for 2h or take transit for 1.5h. You know the vast majority what the answer is going to be.

I wanted to see Texas for years but never have. Looks like I'll have to wait 3 more years to make it happen. But that's OK. She'll look better than ever and in a new home with (hopefully) other ships. They got "seawolf" park there. But that is going to be a wake zone for sure with all the heavy shipping going in and out.

@ttyymmnn said in I hope it was insured, because that looks really expensive:

While the front does not appear to have fallen off, there is no word yet whether or not the yacht was in the environment at the time.

This part confused me, but then...

@pyroholtz said in I hope it was insured, because that looks really expensive:

@ttyymmnn obligatory

I had seen that clip before, but had forgotten about it.

@DipodomysDeserti Good point. I meant someone who is stabilized off the sauce. Not a good plan to head out into the woods to 'sober up'

@Future-Next-Gen-S2000-Owner

Yea - I just have never seen a tach fail on its own. I've seen wiring fail all the time. Glad that your Vintage Bayliner will stay all vintage!

Please post a picture of the gauges and the boat!

@WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTInowA4 you live in the coolest apartment i've ever seen AND you have a boat?

shut up. 👊

or take me with you ❤

@WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTInowA4 I can't imagine carpet on my boat. I just have slip resistant deck paint.

@EssExTee lots of big boaty boats over here last weekend

@siennaman said in Unnecessary boat shopping:

makes me wonder what the dump fees run in my area

That's a reminder that the value of a boat can actually swing negative if you neglect it long enough and don't store it well when not in use.

A quick look around suggests that one of these (in its day, a nice but nothing extraordinary general-purpose family-outing boat that could pick up a skier, and its day was 30+ years ago) can be had in similar or better condition for less than he is asking, or in much better condition for probably less than you'd spend buying this one and bringing it back.

Oh, yeah, and with a bum starter solenoid, you're taking it on faith that it doesn't need an engine overhaul.

I'm assuming until proven otherwise that this is a $500 used trailer with a probably salvageable, possibly financially worth salvaging boat on it.

No Dice as found at anywhere near the asking price of $3500.

@functionoverfashion I'm always doing things like that

@functionoverfashion Glad it was something easy like that. Now you're gonna have some fun!

@Old-Busted-Hotness here's what one of the guys had to say over on Correct Craft Fan, regarding this issue. Good analysis:

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@awesomeaustinv said in Project Squamasee Update: It Floats! It Runs! Sort of.:

@functionoverfashion Dang, I’m not much of a boat guy but those old wooden speedboats are beautiful things. And 351s are good sounding engines, so it’ll have a soundtrack to match! Is it just me or does your engine maybe sound like it has a vacuum leak? I don’t know much about boat noises but I’m hearing a lot of sucking sounds.

At the beginning my phone was RIGHT next to the carb. But good ears and I'll make sure I don't have any obvious hoses loose, there aren't very many on this thing so it should be an easy check.

Also, thanks, yeah it's a pretty thing. I've just been in the weeds of it for a while and can't wait to enjoy the beauty of it.

Just a bump on this today, rather than making a new thread. I might. MIGHT. MAAAYBBE. Be able to launch this boat today.

@functionoverfashion can't wait to see the update!

@JeepOfTheseus For sure, I wash my arms with ice-cold water, it sucks but helps.

@aremmes In this case the only fiberglassing I did was on the muffler, with some light cloth, and I always wore gloves. Today the splinters were from handling the fiberglass 3" pipe after cutting it. Wrestling it into the rubber hose sections is ... fun. I use lubricant which helps immensely, but still everything is very tight - which is good!

And no, the exhaust on inboards like this is always wet. Cooling water is drawn in from the lake and dumped out via the exhaust. It stays below 150F under normal operation. It also makes sweet gurgling sounds when the exhaust output is above water or right at the waterline, like this one is.

@Old-Busted-Hotness ask and you shall receive, here's the old engine:

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I'm dropping my boat off on Thursday. Pretty sure I blew the main fuse in the fall. Any way. It was 70's last week and snowed last night. Good times. Give it a few weeks though and it will be boat season. Mother's day and on is pretty good around here.

@іди-на-хуй-Влад-formerly-known-as-Distraxi It provides the bare necessities.

@WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTInowA4 - awesome action shot of that gold Fiat and your A4 looks like it's been cared for by @svend himself, awesome ride and thanks for sharing, more Audi content please!

@Future-Next-Gen-S2000-Owner way to sink my boat. This means war!

@LooseonExit more victims of Big Oil

@Shop-Teacher a very well known one here, as well as one that has personal significance for me. We’ve had other shipping disasters with worse loss of life, but this one played out within sight of a major city, and, while it predated live outside broadcast TV (in NZ, at least), it was close enough to our major TV studio that film could be rushed from the scene and go to air while events were still in play. The whole nation ground to a standstill to watch.

There’s interesting archival footage here.

@Future-Next-Gen-S2000-Owner My uncle once told me it makes more sense to blow money on a fast boat than a fast car: waterways frequently don't have speed limits.

And the places where there are speed limits, they should be respected dammit.

@LooseonExit Yep, which makes me note that the Vasa is a must see for anyone visiting Stockholm:
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Much shallower water of course, but freshwater is much less hospitable for shipworms and other wood eating marine life, allowing it to be in very good condition for having spent over three centuries on the bottom.

@Chariotoflove said in Who wants a Higgins boat?:

@EssExTee
I’m in if we can play WWII music whenever we disembark.

What a piece of music. Goldsmith you magnificent bastard

@aestheticsinmotion I don't know if the city is actually expecting to make some real cash off it, or if taking bids is some sort of gatekeeping plan, to cut down on the number of applications or something.

But, yeah, they should be pretty well giving them away based on the condition

@essextee said in Dammit I missed the cool boat:

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Flava Flav Spit

I actually know a guy who lived on an old tug in Sausalito. My grandpa had a small one called the Hobo actually. I would love this thing but I suspect couldn't afford to fill it up once.

@facw OOF!

@silentbutnotreallydeadly said in Wake Surfing News (or lack there of):

@bicyclebuck
That's the way to test engineering solutions to a problem...not the wake boats component of the problem.

Yes, but waves are waves. They vary in frequency and amplitude, but that's about it. The source doesn't really matter.

If the goal is to reduce the impact of big waves on the shoreline, you either have to:
a) remove the source of the waves;
b) add a barrier of some kind to prevent big waves from reaching the shoreline;
c) change the shape of the slope;
d) change the material of the shoreline;
e) or change the vegetation on the shoreline.

Actual solutions are often a combination of the options listed above.

@exage03040 said in RIP Surfside 6:

Imagine living in it after doing a houseboat conversion. This place is great! Now why does it always smell like fries?

@classicdatsundebate did you find tranquility?

@highlander said in Late Thanksgiving Craigslist challenge.:

@essextee this looks like fun.

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I once owned the twin-engine version of that boat. I can confirm they're a ton of fun. Very much a thinking man's Jetski.

I even took it out on the ocean running from San Diego bay up to Mission Bay and back for day. Things got a bit serious for a mile or so on the entrance into San Diego Bay with waves properly stacking up, but otherwise it was tons of fun.

@facw said in MontegoMan's Fleet Update...and Appendix Troubles:

@montegoman562 Kids ride on the jetski?

Or get a roof rack.

For the kids.

@exage03040 said in Life on the Laker:

Funny we also had a drag race to the Detroit River with another vessel, only we won and the Oiler was leaning out the stern hatch giving them the bird as they came in behind us.

I love this.

@cé-hé-sin bye bye Belgrano mk2? 😛

@hfv Or Gorgo.

@awesomeaustinv Impressive, but weird subject matter. They couldn't have done the Queen Mary or the QE2?

It also makes me think of a great joke (bearing in mind I'm a Scot by birth):

So there's a school group on an outing to the Glasgow Transport museum and they're in the Clyde Room. The Clyde Room is filled with hundreds of models of ships built on the river Clyde. The kids are looking around, but they can't find the most famous ship of all: The Titanic.

A wee gallus Glasgow wean sees a curator and marches over to him.

"Hawl Mister, where's the Titanic? We cannae find it."

The curator rocks back on his heels, draws a breath through his teeth, and scratches his forehead.

"Well, the Titanic wisnae built on the Clyde."

"How'd ye know that Mister?"

"Well, ye see son... it sank."

@functionoverfashion said in Boat Project, Update 2: Let The Cutting Begin:

@rusty-vandura said in Boat Project, Update 2: Let The Cutting Begin:

@functionoverfashion Lags can be really poor fasteners. If you use them I would suggest using stainless and drilling pilot hole of carefully chosen size. And really careful how much torks you give them.

You're right about lags in general. However, they are industry standard for motor mounts in small recreational boats. Or at least, they were for a very long time, if not still. There are 4 per motor mount going 90 degrees to each other (in pairs) and most of the force is in shear, so they hold up really well. Oh, and they are stainless for sure.

It's actually a common thing to check, when buying an older boat (especially an inboard ski boat) - do the motor mount bolts spin when you try to tighten them? If so, there's rotten wood in the stringers. Now, the engine isn't going anywhere, and people drive boats for years with rotten stringers with varying degrees of rot. But it does mean the structure should be replaced, for the overall structural integrity of the boat.

That all makes good sense.

@gmporschenut-also-a-fan-of-hondas Oh, I hadn't even thought of a sailing yacht but YES that would be wonderful.

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@mastermario That's cool! Just make sure that you can get most of the parts you may need (or an equivalent) since the boat is so uncommon.

@functionoverfashion Yeah, I know the thing with boat engines is they can often be run at full or near-full throttle for long periods of time and often with little warm-up and the like.....that can't be easy on them...

@pyramidhat I am not writing it off, just a preference.

@beefchips said in New Pilar - Another Cool Thing I Missed:

Yeah, I'm assuming they sell exactly zero of the decontented versions, as opposed to somewhere between 1 and 6 of the regular ones

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I am thoroughly in love with whatever that blue and white thing is. What a wonderful piece of design.

@longtime-lurker excellent

@rctothefuture my wife is also very pale but she at least can tan. We questioned going with a top less boat but I couldn’t pass this one up. We will find a solution.

Just realized they sell a 20 foot pontoon with a 230HP motor.

I need this.

@aremmes said in An excuse to buy more tools:

I guess just have no choice but to buy a new bench vise, eh?

Absolutely!

@farscythe @Old-Busted-Hotness shutting down productions lines adds quite a bit of cost h

I have to go over to that neighborhood soon. MY office is doing a window replacement project just a couple blocks up. Maybe I can convince my boss to do a working lunch